Aerogel comet particle capture experiment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the aerogel particle capture experiment associated with the Stardust spacecraft and its implications for comet dust analysis. Participants explore the history of the experiment, its results, and the commercial availability of aerogel.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recall the aerogel capture of comet dust by the Stardust spacecraft and express curiosity about the results and current status of the experiment.
  • Others confirm the relevance of the Stardust mission and provide links to additional resources, including a Science magazine issue from 2006 discussing the aerogel's effects on particles.
  • There are mentions of the Rosetta mission to comet 67P, with some participants suggesting that its results may be of interest, particularly regarding dust analysis techniques.
  • Questions arise about the technical aspects of mounting samples in atomic force microscopes (AFM), with references to relevant articles for further clarification.
  • One participant proposes a conceptual design for a dust collection mechanism involving a funnel and microscope stages, indicating a creative approach to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a shared interest in the aerogel experiment and its outcomes, but there is no consensus on the current status of the results or the specifics of the dust analysis techniques used in the Rosetta mission.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference the potential alterations to comet particles due to heating in the aerogel, and there are unresolved questions regarding the technical challenges of sample mounting in AFM systems.

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some years ago it was big news when some aerogel bulk launched at the tail of a comet and bits of the comet dust got stuck in the gel. this was going to be recovered somehow and analysed.

I do not know any more about that particular experiment but it died out of the mainstream news.

anyone have any links or know the results??

oh and can you buy this stuff commercially?
 
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Key search word was stardust, thanks.
 
Drakkith said:
Aerogel? I believe you can buy it online. I found several sites selling it from a google search.

Gonna get me some of that.
 
houlahound said:
some years ago it was big news when some aerogel bulk launched at the tail of a comet and bits of the comet dust got stuck in the gel. this was going to be recovered somehow and analysed.

I do not know any more about that particular experiment but it died out of the mainstream news.

anyone have any links or know the results??

oh and can you buy this stuff commercially?

There was a Science magazine special issue on this, back in 2006: vol 314, issue 5806:
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/314/5806
All paywalled, unless you know how to get around that :)
The aerogel, however, caused some alteration to the particles as they heated up due to the rapid deceleration in the aerogel.
The recent, and no doubt forthcoming, results from the Rosetta mission to 67P should be of interest, as that craft carries its own atomic force microscope. A search in Google Scholar using the key words "rosetta; 67p; midas; giada", should throw up a few results.
There have been some posts on the Rosetta blog regarding the dust analysis, among them:
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2016/09/23/living-with-a-comet-a-midas-team-perspective/
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2016/08/31/imaging-tiny-comet-dust-in-3d/
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2015/04/09/giada-investigates-comets-fluffy-dust-grains/
 
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How exactly does the AFM sample get mounted in the AFM? No easy task at the best of times.

Or are you talking about a manned mission?
 
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houlahound said:
How exactly does the AFM sample get mounted in the AFM?

Or are you talking about a manned mission?

This article should explain a bit more about it than I can: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/0...-rosettas-micro-imaging-dust-analysis-system/
And also the instrument description in this paper:
GIADA: ITS STATUS AFTER THE ROSETTA CRUISE PHASE AND ON-GROUND ACTIVITY IN SUPPORT OF THE ENCOUNTER WITH COMET 67P/CHURYUMOV-GERASIMENKO. Della Corte, V., et al.
http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1142/S2251171713500116
 
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Well I'll be, a funnel/scoop aimed on to a wheel with microscope stages on the rim facing outwards. Fly thru some dust and it gets funnelled straight onto to stage that rotates in place for AFM tip...rinse and repeat.

Brilliant.
 
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