Ways to Overcome Negative Signs in Math Problems | Expert Tips

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around strategies for overcoming difficulties with negative signs in mathematical problems. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on improving their accuracy in identifying and managing negative signs, particularly in an online learning environment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with consistently missing negative signs in problems, leading to incorrect answers and anxiety about passing the class.
  • Another participant suggests that taking extra time to think before writing when encountering negative signs may help improve accuracy.
  • A different participant proposes that spending time identifying negative signs in the original problem rather than immediately solving it could be beneficial.
  • One participant offers a dual approach: using a computer algebra system for calculations as a quick fix, while recommending a more effective habit of checking the reasonableness of answers after completing problems.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how checking answers can reveal mistakes related to negative signs, emphasizing the importance of verifying results.
  • A participant mentions the idea of writing an algebra solver for personal use but acknowledges the temptation to rely on it during class.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single effective method for overcoming issues with negative signs. Various strategies are proposed, but no agreement is evident on which approach is superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants express individual challenges and potential solutions, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying issues related to missing negative signs. The effectiveness of the proposed strategies remains uncertain.

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I'm getting tired of getting wrong answers and going back and doing them again and again only to find there's a negative sign in the problem I didn't see through the gigantic problem I just finished. If I were doing an actual classroom and not an online that doesn't allow shown work... I'd at least get partial credit, and it's freaking me out, because I'm beginning to wonder if I'll pass this class because of it. I've practiced and practiced and I just don't seem to see the signs when it matters, and I don't know what to do, and don't want to give up, any advice?
 
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Are you making an extra effort to think before you write when you encounter a negative sign?
 
I try, but for whatever reason I just miss signs all together especially in certain places of problems. Maybe I need to spend tome not doing the problems and just spotting signs in the original?
 
Easy solution: Since you're doing this online, do all the calculations with a computer algebra system. No one will ever know.

Harder (but ultimately better) solution: Develop the habit that every time you finish a problem (and also in the middle when you reach a stopping point), you check whether the answer you got makes sense. It's very unusual to have a problem where you can't check the answer somehow. You don't have to be 100% accurate, just good enough.

Here's an example: Someone asks you to find ##\sum_{n=1}^\infty {x^n \over n}## for ##\left|x\right| < 1##. You do a bunch of work and come up with ##\log(1-x)##. Instead of just typing it in right away, try plugging in a number for ##x## to see if the answer makes sense. As it turns out, if ##x = 1/2##, this answer does not make sense, because it is negative, whereas all the terms in the sequence were positive. So something went wrong, and you can now go through your work to locate it.

Another example: You have to find the point where ##\log(u+1) - u^2## is maximized. After a bunch of work, you get the answer 1/2. As a sanity check, the derivative should be zero there. It isn't, so something went wrong -- who knows exactly what, but something.
 
You know I did think of writing an algebra solver, just for fun. But it'd be too tempting to use it in the class...
 

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