Air resistance - find Vx(t) and Vy(t)

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The discussion revolves around the effects of air resistance on the motion of a projectile, specifically a football kicked with initial velocity components. Participants are exploring how to derive the velocity equations Vx(t) and Vy(t) while incorporating air resistance into the equations of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for Vx(t) and Vy(t) using given equations of motion with air resistance. Some participants question the correctness of these expressions and the integration process for finding x(t) and y(t). Others seek clarification on how to incorporate the air resistance constant (k) into the acceleration equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various attempts at formulating the equations. There is a mix of proposed equations and questions regarding the initial conditions and the role of air resistance in the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the acceleration equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the derived formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that k = 0.1/s and are given specific initial velocities. There is uncertainty about how to apply these values correctly in the context of air resistance affecting projectile motion.

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Suppose at time t= 0 the football is kicked with initial velocity components Vxo and Vyo. Solve the equations above to find Vx(t) and Vy(t). You can make use of the formulas we worked out in class.

"Equations above":
ax = -kvx
ay = -g-kvy

formula worked in class:

v(t) = (g/k)(1-e^-k(t-to)) + Voe^-k(t-to)

so...

Vx(t) = Vocosθe^-kt

Vy(t) = (9.8m/s^2/k)(1-e^-kt) + Vysinθe^-kt

Is this correct?
 
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Next problem is to integrate that to get a formula for x(t) and y(t)

Assuming the above is correct, here's what I got:

x(t) = -V0sin\thetae-k(t-to)/k +V0sin\theta/k

y(t) = -ge-k(t-t0)/k2 + V0cos\thetae-k(t-t0) + g/k2 - V0cos\theta/k
 
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Come on guys

Let me rephrase my question

How to I include air resistance (k) into a projectile motion problem?

In this problem, k = 0.1/s

so do I stick that into the acceleration equation to get a new acceleration?

ax = -kVx
ax = -0.1/s * Vx

ay = g - kvy
ay = -9.8m/s^1 - 0.1 * Vy

This part seems okay, but what do I use for Vx and Vy? Is it the initial velocities?

In this problem I was given Vx0 = 12 m/s and ax0 = 10 m/s

So if I use that, I get these constant velocities

ax = -1.2 m/s^2
ay = -10.8 m/s^2
 
Carnivroar said:
Please help [PLAIN]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/Hatsuharu1399/gdkifmqq.gif[/QUOTE]
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