Solving Power of Projectile with Air Resistance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the trajectory of a projectile considering air resistance. The original poster seeks to determine the x and y values of a projectile based on its launch angle and initial power, while incorporating the effects of air drag into their equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt to apply energy conservation principles to a scenario involving air resistance. There are questions regarding the validity of the equations presented and the need to account for energy lost due to air drag.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the complexities of including air resistance in the equations, suggesting that it may require integration over the projectile's trajectory. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges in accurately modeling air drag and its impact on the projectile's motion.

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Participants note that the original poster's approach may not fully account for the energy lost to air resistance, and there is a mention of the difficulty in incorporating air drag into the equations without knowing specific parameters such as the drag coefficient.

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Homework Statement



I need to get the x/y values of a fired projectile given the angle of the initial firs and the power, with air resistance included

Homework Equations


(@ =theta, Vx=velocity along x-axis,Vy=velocity along y-axis,Vo=initial velocity)
The formula i have is
Vx=VoCos@
X=VoCos@t
Vy=VoSin@-gt
Y=VoSin@t-(1/2)gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


to calculate the initial velocity Vo
Vo=sqr(2E/m)
where
E = power with which the ball was fired,
m =mass of ball

What i need it how to add air resistance to this equation
Besides, are my equation correct?
 
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please i just need to include air drag into this, please, i have search the forum without success
 
IN YOUR FIRST POST SPECIALLY WITH YOUR ATTEMPT TO SOLUTION.YOU ARE TRYING TO APPLY ENERGY CONSERVATION FOR SUCH A CASE WHERE YOU WANT AIR RESISTANCE INCLUDED YET YOU DON'T KNOW THE ENERGY LOST DUE TO IT?
IT IS THUS WRONG.
BY THE WAY FOR AIR DRAG IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO INCLUDE IT ON EQUATION'S.MANY A TIMES IT IS WRITTEN AS:FORCE DUE TO AIR=KV2.
WHERE V IS INSTANTANEOUS VELOCITY OF PARTICLE, K IS A CONSTANT FACTOR DEPENDING UPON VARIOUS THINGS LIKE SHAPE,SPEED OF WIND'S,etc.
YOU MAY INCLUDE THE ABOVE EQUATION BUT BY INTEGRATING IT ALL OVER THE TRAJECTORY.
IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS POST AGAIN AND I SHALL SHOW YOU THOSE CALCULATIONS!
 
am trying to simulate the movement of a projectile, but instead of adding initial velocity, i added initial KE, that is the initial with which the ball was fired, so i used
E=0.2mV^2
thus initial velocity V is
Vo=sqrt(2E/m)
the vertical component of the velocity at anytime Vy
Vy=VoSin(theta)-gt
the horizontal velocity Vx is
Vx=VoCos(theta)

The air drag would definitely affect the velocities of the projectile

so the question is, how do i add the air drag in this equation?
 
FIRSTLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND TOUR MISTAKE IN ENERGY CONSERVATION.YOU DO NOT KNOW ENERGY LOST DUE TO AIR IN FORM OF HEAT,SOUND,etc.
WELL YES THE AIR DRAG WILL CERTAINLY AFFECT Vx & Vy.just check the attachment as it's difficult for me to type here with math symbols.
BY THE WAY THE ATTACHMENT'S ARE IMAGES GOT USING PRINT SCREEN COMMAND.THEY START FROM 1 TO 5.EACH ARE IN ORDER.DO TRY TO UNDERSTAND.

:smile:BEST OF LUCK!:smile:
 

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