Airbag as Explosion Protection - Any Thoughts?

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The discussion explores the concept of using modified airbags as a protective measure against explosions, particularly in the context of safeguarding objects like safes. Participants consider the potential effectiveness of airbags in diverting blast waves and the implications of their explosive inflation systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a correctly shaped airbag could effectively divert blast waves from an explosion and whether the location of the blast would influence this outcome.
  • Another participant proposes that if an equal mass of matter could be accelerated in the opposite direction of an explosion, it might cancel out the incoming momentum and reduce damage.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of airbag deployment, with one participant noting that a failure could exacerbate the situation due to the explosive nature of the inflation system.
  • Active armor systems used in tanks are mentioned as a parallel concept, where an outward explosion can mitigate the impact of an incoming projectile.
  • Discussion includes the limitations of reactive armor against kinetic energy projectiles, particularly in space, where even small debris can cause significant damage.
  • Participants express mixed feelings about the survivability of soldiers after an explosion, particularly in relation to mobility post-impact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the effectiveness of airbags and active armor, with no consensus reached on the feasibility or practicality of using airbags for explosion protection. Concerns about the reliability of airbag systems and the nature of explosive threats remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexities of blast dynamics and the limitations of current protective technologies, including the potential for airbag inflation systems to introduce additional hazards.

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I was wondering if a modified airbag could serve as a lessener to an explosion?

If you were trying to protect a safe from an explosion, could an airbag correctly "shaped" divert the initial blast and pressure waves enough to make any difference? would the location of the blast play a decisive role?

I realize that the inflation system is itself built using explosive components, so I'm not sure if this idea would make the situation better or worse...

Any thoughts??
 
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If you have some matter flying at you at some enormous velocity (let's say gas and shrapnel), it carries momentum.

If you can manage to accelerate an equal weight of matter to an equivalent velocity, in the opposite direction so that it collides with the incoming matter, the momenta of both would cancel and you would "divert" the incoming explosion.

If you can detect the approaching explosive debris or shock front ahead of time, and then gently accelerate your counter-mass to an equivalent velocity, you can safely prevent damage.

Instead of being hit with shrapnel and suffering a very large force over a very small time, you're using another controlled explosion to accelerate counter-mass with a milder force spread over a longer time. This milder force may be "survivable."

- Warren
 
Yeah, that's basically what I was thinking. One of my concerns was that if the airbag failed to deploy, the inflationary fuel would only make matters much worse. But I am not sure that the airbag inflator is big enough to make much of a difference. Thanks!
 
Some tanks use active armor - a bomb that explodes outward meets with a shell that is inbound, taking away its momentum. Same idea.
 
Like Russ mentioned, the "active armor" is used on many of the best tanks.

http://www.defense-update.com/features/du-1-04/feature-armor-protection.htm

and the next page at the bottom of that page:

http://www.defense-update.com/features/du-1-04/reactive-armor.htm

It seems the explosive is of most benefit to disrupt shaped charges (like a bazooka or panzer-faust) where the warhead is shaped to focus the hot gases into a stream that melts right through inches of steel armor.

With kinetic energy shrapnel though, not much can really be done aside from sheer thickness. In space, a flec of paint traveling at 25,000MPH is going to penetrate about anything man-made with ease. A loose bolt that fell off an old spacecraft is even more scary. So a self-sealing spacecraft that can stop the airleak after the projectile makes it through is a secondary defense to a primary projectile that is best avoided.
 
Awesome - except for the space thing, that seems a little troubling :eek: . The reactive armor designs really seem like they're designed to provide a higher survivability rate, but unfortunately it doesn't seem likely to allow for much mobility after the explosion (in the case of a mine) to allow the soldiers to get the heck out once they've been hit initially. Thanks for the insights.
 

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