Alcohol, accidents, effects on family and social life, lives getting spoiled

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The discussion centers around the negative impacts of alcohol and smoking on individuals and society, highlighting personal experiences with addiction and its consequences. Participants express concern about the health risks and social issues associated with alcohol consumption, such as drunk driving and family neglect. There is a call for awareness campaigns about the dangers of alcohol, paralleling existing campaigns against smoking. While some argue for moderation and personal responsibility, others caution that even small amounts can lead to addiction for some individuals. The debate touches on the effectiveness of prohibition versus regulation, with historical examples like Prohibition in the U.S. illustrating the complexities of banning substances. Participants also discuss the societal stigma surrounding excessive drinking, advocating for a shift in perception to view heavy drinking as a character flaw rather than a social norm. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to alcohol consumption, recognizing both individual rights and the potential harm to society.
  • #51
russ_watters said:
Give it some time - cigarette smoking is wayyyy down.

Not here. Almost every time that I see a kid smoking, I try to talk him/her out of it by pointing out that I am dying because of it. Just as with me at that age, they invariably don't believe me. It's a classic case of "do as I say, not as I do", and it never works.
 
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  • #52
No kid thinks "that's going to happen to me". They think the complete opposite.

Talking them out of it, heck even scaring them with horrific photos just doesn't work.

I don't believe there's a way to stop people smoking/drinking/taking drugs. The government realize that education and shock/awe attacks just ain't having enough effect and so now they're going as far to make cigarettes only come in brown packets with the makers name and a warning on. Plus, they're stopping them being put on display. (This is in the UK)

They're only doing all of this because they don't want to / can't outright ban them.

They are now taking steps to make smoking as unappealing and what I consider to be as difficult as possible.
 
  • #53
Can you imagine this? My neighbor got drunk last night and woke up the neighborhood trying to open front door. And in the land of the free and the home of the brave, the best solution they could find was to ban me from drinking. I expect that when they take away your right to free speech it will be because someone abused it.
 
  • #54
Bob, I was mistaken. It's been so long that I had forgotten something. That $1,000 was what my total driving expenses would have been each month, rather than the cost for just the interlock itself. There was still the $1,500 installation fee, though. Sorry about the confusion.
 

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