Algebraic Limit of (cos x-1) / 2x^2 at x=0: Properties and Identities Explained

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The discussion revolves around finding the algebraic limit of the expression (cos x - 1) / (2x^2) as x approaches 0. Participants are exploring properties of limits and identities related to trigonometric functions.

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  • Participants discuss the possibility of using L'Hôpital's rule and question its applicability. There are attempts to manipulate the expression algebraically, including multiplying by x/x and considering Taylor series expansions. Some participants express confusion about the problem and request clarification on the steps involved.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being suggested, including the use of limit identities and algebraic manipulation. Some participants are seeking further clarification on the concepts involved, while others are providing hints without offering complete solutions.

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Find the limit algebraically (if it exists).
If the limit DNE (Does Not Exist), explain why.
(hint: use the properties of limits and the limit identities)

... cos x-1
lim --------- =
x->0 2x^2

Help??

*** note: the "..." infront of the cos is just so nothing. I only did it to evenly proportion the fraction
 
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Are you allowed to use L'Hopitals rule?
 
Wrong forum.
 
CompuChip said:
Are you allowed to use l'hospital's rule?

I would assume not.
 
0, multiply it by x/x, cosx - 1/x is 0
 
Sorry bignum, your post doesn't make sense.
First of all, cos(x) - 1/x is not 0. In fact, it's not zero for any (real) value of x.
If you multiply the top by x it gives x cos(x) - x, and the bottom gives 2x3.
If you multiply by (1/x) / (1/x), then you would still be left with 2x in the denominator, and the numerator would not become cos(x) - 1/x but cos(x)/x - 1/x.

I wonder if Edin is still going to respond, or if he found the answer elsewhere.

The reason I asked about L'Hopital, is because you mentioned you should use "limit identities." One of the most "famous" ones is the standard limit
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} = 1[/tex].

Otherwise, you may want to use a Taylor series to expand cos(x) as 1 + a x2 + O(x4), such that [cos(x) - 1] / x2 becomes a + O(x2) when you take x to zero.
 
Another identity (including that the one that Compuchip gave) that is very useful in this problem is sin2(x) + cos2(x) = 1.

You don't need L'Hopital's Rule or Taylor series.
 
Are you thinking about (cos2(x) - 1) / 2x2 here, or am I just missing something?

[edit]
I am probably missing something, namely that
[tex]\lim_{x \to a} f(x) g(x) = L_f L_g[/tex]
if f has limit Lf and g has limit Lg.
Right?
[/edit]
 
Guys I don't really understand this it's why I posted it. So if you're going to give an answer can you please show the work so I can try and figure it out?? For the user who said something about Lhopital, I don't really know what that is but judging form your post it seemed you were making a reference to the special limit properties. Ex:

1-cos x
-------= 0
...x
 
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Edin_Dzeko said:
Guys I don't really understand this it's why I posted it. So if you're going to give an answer can you please show the work so I can try and figure it out?? For the user who said something about Lhopital, I don't really know what that is but judging form your post it seemed you were making a reference to the special limit properties. Ex:

1-cos x
-------= 0
...x

Hi, Edin. Welcome to PF!:smile:

We don't do the work for you here, and we don't give out answers to homework problems. We only give you pointers on how to proceed (so that you can do the work yourself) and point out errors.

As a hint on how to begin with this problem, I'd start by multiplying both the numerator and denominator by [itex](1+\cos(x))[/itex]...what do you get when you do that?
 

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