All-Sky Catalogue: Exploring Stars & Planets in 22nd Century

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of cataloging and studying all stars and planets within 100 parsecs by the 22nd century, particularly regarding their habitability. Participants explore the implications of advanced technology and the challenges of identifying non-Earth life forms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest it is reasonable to assume that all stars and planets within 100 parsecs could be found and studied by the 22nd century, given advancements in technology.
  • Others question the definition of "habitable," asking for clarification on which life forms are considered, particularly in relation to Earth-centric views.
  • There is a discussion about the existence of non-Earth life forms, with some participants expressing skepticism about their existence and the lack of evidence for such life.
  • One participant mentions the complexity of cataloging stars, noting that many are red dwarfs or part of multiple systems, which could complicate habitability assessments.
  • Another participant provides a detailed list of stars within a certain distance, highlighting the vast amount of data that would need to be managed in the future.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges of detecting small planets, especially those close to their stars, within the proposed volume of study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and skepticism regarding the feasibility of cataloging stars and planets. While some believe it is possible, others highlight significant challenges and uncertainties, particularly in defining habitability and detecting non-Earth life forms.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumptions about technological advancements by the 22nd century, the definitions of habitability, and the unresolved challenges in detecting small planets in close proximity to stars.

  • #31
The previous comment asked about an OWL-like telescope.
 
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  • #32
May I mention http://www.recons.org/

"The purpose of RECONS (REsearch Consortium On Nearby Stars) is to understand the nature of the Sun's nearest stellar neighbors, both individually and as a population. Our primary goals are to discover "missing" members of the stellar sample within 10 parsecs (32.6 light years), and to characterize all stars and their environments within that distance limit." etc etc...

And, by extrapolation, improve estimates of population beyond this 'thoroughly known space'...

Their next Solar Neighborhood (TSN) Series report (#46) should appear soon...

FWIW, whatever the source, I'm hoping for better data on tau Ceti 'f', a sub-neptunian-ish / super-earth in habitable zone. At present, orbital plane error-bars put an uncomfortably wide range on mass and probable composition...
 
  • #33
Nik_2213 said:
May I mention http://www.recons.org/

"The purpose of RECONS (REsearch Consortium On Nearby Stars) is to understand the nature of the Sun's nearest stellar neighbors, both individually and as a population. Our primary goals are to discover "missing" members of the stellar sample within 10 parsecs (32.6 light years), and to characterize all stars and their environments within that distance limit." etc etc...

And, by extrapolation, improve estimates of population beyond this 'thoroughly known space'...

Their next Solar Neighborhood (TSN) Series report (#46) should appear soon...

FWIW, whatever the source, I'm hoping for better data on tau Ceti 'f', a sub-neptunian-ish / super-earth in habitable zone. At present, orbital plane error-bars put an uncomfortably wide range on mass and probable composition...
I've been waiting for them to update their 100 nearest stars list...
 
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  • #34
Me, too, but the field is currently moving so fast, with so many possibles, probables and confirmed, that even the http://exoplanet.eu/catalog/ is struggling to keep up. Plus there are a zillion follow-up observations to be done. Akin to spectral surveys before those 'fibre-optic strand placed by robot' systems automated the field...
 

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