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The discussion revolves around electrical circuits, specifically focusing on resistivity, equivalent resistance in series and parallel circuits, and power dissipation in a wire. The original poster presents multiple problems involving calculations related to resistivity, series and parallel circuits, and seeks clarification on their attempts and understanding.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of resistivity using the formula involving length and cross-sectional area. There are questions about the correctness of current values through resistors in series and parallel configurations. Some participants express confusion regarding the application of Kirchhoff's law and the determination of equivalent resistance.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the equations needed for resistivity and equivalent resistance. There is ongoing exploration of the correct currents through resistors in parallel circuits, with suggestions to visualize the circuit for better understanding. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being discussed, particularly regarding the application of circuit laws.

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Participants note confusion over specific values and the application of circuit laws, indicating a need for further clarification on the concepts involved. There are references to external resources for additional information, and some participants express frustration with the explanations provided.

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Homework Statement


1) a 12m length of wire with uniform cross sectional area 2.75x10^-7 has a potential difference of 15v applied across it, producing a current of 20A
a) find the resistivity of the wire B) what is the power dissipated in the wire?


2) 2 circuits are made. In circuit 1, 4 resistors (1,2,3,6 ohms) are connected in series. in circuit 2, the same 4 resistors are connected in parallel. The battery emf is 24 volts in both cases. Calculate the equivalent resistance of the each circuit and the current through each resistor.

3)http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=46010928.png
determine the equivalent resistance and the total power deliverd by the battery for this ciruit.
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The Attempt at a Solution


1) a) r=I/V r=15/20 r=.75
b) p=IV p=20*15 p=300

2) Equivalent resistance for the series would be 12 because i just added the resistors up and i solved for current doing 24=I(12) V=IR so then the current through each resistor would be 2,4,6,12 respectively
for the parallel i did 1/rp=1/r1+1/r2+1/r3+1/r4 and got 1/3=rp, i solved current using v*r=I
24(1/3)=8 and then for each resistor the current was 24,12,8,4 respectively.

3) I am totally confused on this one?
 
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1 a) is correct answer, but you have symbols for current and voltage wrong.

b) There is an equation for resistivity, that includes length and cross sectional area.

2) Req for series is correct, but the currents aren't. The current of one loop is constant inside that loop. So the currents through each resistor would be?

Req for parralleled is wrong. Your method of finding the total current is right, but for each resistor it's wrong. Kirchof's law states that if you divide one wire into multiple, the sum of the currents is the same as it was in one wire. But the voltage won't be altered in "cross roads".

3) You need to find the Req for the circuit and then you can use the equation for power.
 
your right there is an equation for resistivity, that includes length and cross sectional area.
but i don't know what the restistivy of my matiral is.

2) for the series circuit would the current through each resistor be 2?
B)i don't get you

3)thanks for nothing on that one, lol you just read the question too me.
 
shemer77 said:
your right there is an equation for resistivity, that includes length and cross sectional area.
but i don't know what the restistivy of my matiral is.

That's what your trying to figure out. The equation should be [tex]R= \rho \frac{l}{A}[/tex] you know everything else but [tex]\rho[/tex].

2) for the series circuit would the current through each resistor be 2?

Yes.

B)i don't get you

Then you should read about Kirchoff's law. But to get you going, the voltage through each resistor is the same, current isn't.

3)thanks for nothing on that one, lol you just read the question too me.

Your welcome! :-p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor#Series_and_parallel_resistors Check that out. You should see those type of connections in the circuit, which you then can use to determine Req for the circuit.
 
lol thanks man, didnt mean too sound like a loser.
 
i still don't see how my current through each resistor is wrong for the parallel cirucit.
 
shemer77 said:
i still don't see how my current through each resistor is wrong for the parallel cirucit.

Try drawing the circuit out with the 4 resistances in parallel connected to the voltage source. You should be able to see that the voltage across each resistor is the same as the voltage source. So if you know the voltage across each resistor, and the resistance of each resistor, you should be able to solve for the current through each resistor.
 
shemer77 said:
3)
determine the equivalent resistance and the total power deliverd by the battery for this ciruit.
Click here if you can't see the pic

Start collapsing the circuit from the outside, moving towards the voltage source. Use parallel combination where you need it, and use series combination where you need it. It may help to redraw the circuit each time you make a combination, in order to easily see subsequent combinations. Once the circuit is down to just a voltage source and an equivalent resistor, it should be easy to find the power. There are multiple ways to find it.
 
mplayer said:
Try drawing the circuit out with the 4 resistances in parallel connected to the voltage source. You should be able to see that the voltage across each resistor is the same as the voltage source. So if you know the voltage across each resistor, and the resistance of each resistor, you should be able to solve for the current through each resistor.

isnt the formula i=V/R1 , if that's true then for resisotr one it would be 24/1
 
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shemer77 said:
isnt the formula i=V/R1 , if that's true then for resistor one it would be 24/1

Yep, that's one branch current, just get the other 3 for that parallel circuit and you should be set for that part. After you've calculated those currents, you will need to re-figure the equivalent parallel resistance REQ, it is not 1/3 ohms but it's close.

Once you get the correct REQ, calculate the current through it. You will notice that the current through the REQ is the sum of the individual branch currents. In other words: IREQ = IR1 + IR2 + IR3 + IR4
It might be a good way to confirm your answer.
 
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is it .5?

for number 3 is the equivalent resistance 6?
 
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shemer77 said:
is it .5?

for number 3 is the equivalent resistance 6?

Yep, both are right, good job :biggrin:
 

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