Alpha, beta particle radius of curviture

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of curvature for alpha and beta particles in a magnetic field, utilizing concepts from particle physics and energy equations.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between energy, mass, and radius of curvature using relevant equations. There is an attempt to calculate the velocity and radius based on given energy values, but confusion arises regarding the mass of the particles and the application of formulas.

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Some participants report success with calculations for beta particles but encounter difficulties with alpha particles, leading to questions about the accuracy of their results compared to textbook answers. There is ongoing exploration of the equations and values used, indicating a productive discussion despite some unresolved discrepancies.

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Participants note differences in energy values and magnetic field strengths between their calculations and textbook examples, which may contribute to the confusion in results. The mass of the alpha particle is discussed in relation to the mass of protons and electrons.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



r=RoA1/3
Ro=1.2*10-15

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35 kiloelectron volts = 5.60761762 × 10-15 joules

I could calculate the velocity if I knew mass but that wouldn't help with the radius?
I think that I need to find A from the energy but how do I do that?
 

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The relevant equations are

mv^2/r = qvB. Or

mv = qrB.

sqrt(2mE) = qrB. where E is the energy of the particle , m is the mass of the particle.

Mass of β particle is the mass of the electron and mass of the α particle is equal to 4 times the mass of the proton.
 
Hey,
thanks that worked for the beta particle but not the alpha particle.
sqrt(2*4*1.6726E-27*5.61E-15)=1.602E-19*r*1.1 then I solved that and got 0.05m and that's wrong!

there's a similar Question in the textbook but the energy is 40keV and B=1.5T the answer in the textbook for the alpha particle is 19.3mm and when I try it I get 0.0525m?

thanks for helping!
 
pat666 said:
Hey,
thanks that worked for the beta particle but not the alpha particle.
sqrt(2*4*1.6726E-27*5.61E-15)=1.602E-19*r*1.1 then I solved that and got 0.05m and that's wrong!

there's a similar Question in the textbook but the energy is 40keV and B=1.5T the answer in the textbook for the alpha particle is 19.3mm and when I try it I get 0.0525m?

thanks for helping!

For alpha particle q = 2*e = 2*1.6*10^-19 C.
 
Thanks heaps - problem solved!
 

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