Altering the shape of a flasks walls

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The discussion focuses on the principles of pressure in fluid mechanics, specifically in relation to altering the shape of a conical flask's walls. It establishes that local pressure remains constant despite changes in the flask's shape, as long as local conditions are maintained. The equation F = (ρgh + Pa)πr² is confirmed to apply to the conical vessel, indicating that pressure is a function of depth and not influenced by external conditions. The conversation also contrasts the effects of changing the width and depth of a rectangular tank on pressure per unit area.

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13 b) i) https://www.asi.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2011-Physics-exam-solutions.pdf

On page 13 of pdf
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" For the conical vessel, we note that pressure is a local force, and so must be independent of conditions far away. Hence altering the shape of the flasks walls while keeping local conditions constant will not change the pressure locally, and so F = (ρgh+Pa)πr2 also holds for this flask "

Can someone expand on this and the theory behind it? My intuition is lower mass, lower force, but this is countered in the next part of this problem.
 
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aspodkfpo said:
Homework Statement:: 13 b) i) https://www.asi.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2011-Physics-exam-solutions.pdf

On page 13 of pdf
Relevant Equations:: n/a

" For the conical vessel, we note that pressure is a local force, and so must be independent of conditions far away. Hence altering the shape of the flasks walls while keeping local conditions constant will not change the pressure locally, and so F = (ρgh+Pa)πr2 also holds for this flask "

Can someone expand on this and the theory behind it? My intuition is lower mass, lower force, but this is countered in the next part of this problem.
Consider first a rectangular tank.
If you increase the weight by increasing the width then the force per unit area stays the same. If you increase the depth instead then the force per unit area increases in proportion.
Now let the tank have sides that lean outwards. Some of the weight is taken by those sides, and it turns out that the force per unit area at the base still only depends on depth.
If we make the sides lean in, as in the example, the fluid exerts pressure on those sides, and the reaction force has a downward component. This makes up for the fact that there is less water near the top.
 

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