Alternating Series Test Conditions

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The discussion revolves around the conditions and applications of the Alternating Series Test, particularly focusing on the convergence and divergence of alternating series expressed in the form \(\sum(-1)^{n}a_{n}\). Participants explore the implications of the test's conditions and the potential for inconclusiveness in determining convergence.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants raise questions about the implications of Condition 1 being positive or infinite, seeking clarity on what tests can be applied thereafter. There is also discussion on whether the Alternating Series Test is mandatory and the possibility of applying other tests like the Ratio Test or Absolute Convergence Test directly.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the conditions under which the Alternating Series Test may be inconclusive, with some participants suggesting alternative tests. Multiple interpretations of the test's conditions are being discussed, particularly regarding the relationship between the limit of \(a_n\) and the convergence of the series.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the conclusions that can be drawn from the Alternating Series Test, particularly regarding the divergence of the series when the limit of \(a_n\) is not zero. There is also mention of the need for further clarification on the application of various convergence tests in different scenarios.

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This is what I understand about Alternating Series right now:

If I have an alternate series, I can apply the alternative series test.

\sum(-1)^{n}a_{n}

Condition 1: Nth term test on a_{n}

Condition 2: 0 < a_{n+1} ≤ a_{n}If condition 1 is positive or ∞, convergence is inconclusive, try another test.

If condition 1 is 0, then go to condition 2.

If condition 2 is false, then convergence is inconclusive, try another test.

If condition 2 is true, then series is convergent, go to absolute convergence test.Absolute convergence test

\sum |a_{n}|

Choose a test to find convergence or divergence.

If convergent, Alternating series is absolutely convergent.

If divergent, Alternating series is conditionally convergent.So my questions come from applying Alternating Series Conditions 1 and 2.

Question 1:
If condition 1 is positive or ∞ (instead of 0), then the test is said to be inconclusive, but then what test can then be applied? It looks like Condition 1 is sort of the nth term test, so I would be inclined to think that a positive or ∞ would imply divergence. So if it doesn't imply divergence (only inconclusiveness), what then?

Question 2:
If condition 1 turns out to be 0 and condition 2 is tested and turns out false, the test is said to be inconclusive, but then, again, what test can be applied thereafter?
 
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If condition 1 or 2 of the Alternating Series test fails and shows inconclusive, can I then apply the Ratio test to the Alternating Series to test for convergence/divergence?
EDIT: UPDATE:From what I've just learned, I don't necessarily have to do the Alternating Series Test on an Alternating Series. I can just skip it and jump directly to the Absolute Convergence Test and use any other test to determine convergence/divergence, such as ratio, comparison, integral test. Alternating Series Test is not a mandatory test for Alternating Series. Is this in fact true?
 
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Lebombo said:

Homework Statement



This is what I understand about Alternating Series right now:

If I have an alternate series, I can apply the alternative series test.

\sum(-1)^{n}a_{n}

Condition 1: Nth term test on a_{n}

Condition 2: 0 < a_{n+1} ≤ a_{n}


If condition 1 is positive or ∞, convergence is inconclusive, try another test.
If condition 1 is 0, then go to condition 2.

If condition 2 is false, then convergence is inconclusive, try another test.

If condition 2 is true, then series is convergent, go to absolute convergence test.


Absolute convergence test

\sum |a_{n}|

Choose a test to find convergence or divergence.

If convergent, Alternating series is absolutely convergent.

If divergent, Alternating series is conditionally convergent.


So my questions come from applying Alternating Series Conditions 1 and 2.

Question 1:
If condition 1 is positive or ∞ (instead of 0), then the test is said to be inconclusive, but then what test can then be applied? It looks like Condition 1 is sort of the nth term test, so I would be inclined to think that a positive or ∞ would imply divergence. So if it doesn't imply divergence (only inconclusiveness), what then?

I suppose your condition 1 is really whether or not ##a_n\to 0##. If not the series diverges and if so go to condition 2.

Question 2:
If condition 1 turns out to be 0 and condition 2 is tested and turns out false, the test is said to be inconclusive, but then, again, what test can be applied thereafter?

You can test for absolute convergence with any of the standard tests. Most text problems will be solved when you have done all that. If you actually run into a series in your homework where nothing works, it's time to ask your teacher and see if he can solve it.
 
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Lebombo said:
P.S.

If condition 1 or 2 of the Alternating Series test fails and shows inconclusive, can I then apply the Ratio test to the Alternating Series to test for convergence/divergence?
EDIT: UPDATE:From what I've just learned, I don't necessarily have to do the Alternating Series Test on an Alternating Series. I can just skip it and jump directly to the Absolute Convergence Test and use any other test to determine convergence/divergence, such as ratio, comparison, integral test. Alternating Series Test is not a mandatory test for Alternating Series. Is this in fact true?

Yes. You would usually test for absolute convergence first, since if it works, you are done. But if it isn't absolutely convergent and it is alternating, try the alternating series stuff.
 
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Lebombo said:

Homework Statement



This is what I understand about Alternating Series right now:

If I have an alternate series, I can apply the alternative series test.

\sum(-1)^{n}a_{n}

Condition 1: Nth term test on a_{n}

Condition 2: 0 < a_{n+1} ≤ a_{n}


If condition 1 is positive or ∞, convergence is inconclusive, try another test.
This isn't quite correct. If the limit isn't equal to 0, you can conclude that the series diverges. There's no need to do additional tests.
 
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Are you sure vela. I read that you can never conclude divergence from the alternating series test alone. The only thing you can do is conclude inconclusive and try a new test.
 
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Are you sure vela. I read that you can never conclude divergence from the alternating series test alone. The only thing you can do is conclude inconclusive and try a new test.

If the terms don't converge to zero, then the series diverges, whether or not it is alternating.

If ##a_n \rightarrow 0## but not monotonically, then you can't conclude anything from the alternating series test. The series may converge or diverge.
 
okay, would I be understanding you correctly if I said:

Given the alternating series Ʃ((-1)^n)(a_{n}) , if I apply the Nth term test on the entire thing, ((-1)^n)(a_{n}), it will diverge if the limit is anything other than zero.

However, given the same series Ʃ((-1)^n)(a_{n}), if I apply condition 1 of the alternating series test, which is the Nth term test on just the (a_{n}) portion, the test is inconclusive if the limit is anything other than zero.
 
No. If ##a_n## doesn't go to 0, then ##(-1)^n a_n## isn't going to go to 0 either. If the terms of the sequence do not converge to 0, the series diverges, period.
 

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