Ampere's Law and charge on the capacitor

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The discussion revolves around the application of Ampere's Law in the context of a capacitor, specifically focusing on the relationship between displacement current and the current flowing to and from the capacitor. Participants are exploring how to analyze the magnetic field in relation to the charge on the capacitor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between displacement current and the current in the capacitor, questioning how to derive the change in electric flux. There are discussions about the derivation of magnetic fields B1 and B2 and the role of the permittivity constant e_0 in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between charge, current, and electric fields, but there is no explicit consensus on the derivation methods being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of Ampere's Law and its application to capacitors, with some confusion regarding the inclusion of the permittivity constant e_0 in their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the derivation steps involved.

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Ampere's law; B*dl= mu(I_enclosed + I_displace)
I_displace=e_0 * d(E*dA)/dt

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There's no current enclosed, only displacement current. I don't know how to find the change in electric flux, so I don't know how I can compare B1 and B2. I know B1 is just = mu*I/(pi*r)
 
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You know how the charge on the capacitor and the current flowing to it are related. You also know the relations between voltage and charge, and voltage and electric field. From all of those, you get the displacement current - how is it related to the current flowing in and out of the capacitor?
 
Will displacement current = current flowing in and out of capacitor?

If I relate them to area ->
B_2*pi*r = mu*e_0* (pi/4*r^2)/(pi*r^2) * I <-------- ratio of small disk (radius = r/2) over total area of capacitor radius r
B_2= e_0/4 * mu*I/(pi*r)
B_1,3= mu*I/(pi*r)

Except we still have e_0 as a factor, which isn't one of the options...
 
I can not follow your derivation, where you got e_0 from?
 
ehild said:
I can not follow your derivation, where you got e_0 from?

Oh nevermind, I got confused... there's no e_0. Thanks! :)
 

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