Amplifier gain in resonant RLC circuit

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Amplifier gain in a resonant RLC circuit is defined as the ratio of output to input voltage, with specific calculations yielding a gain of 0.5 at 200 Hz. The discussion reveals the complexity of solving for inductance (L) and capacitance (C) using two equations derived from impedance at different frequencies. By manipulating these equations, the values for L and C were determined to be approximately 5.80E-4 H and 5.46E-5 F, respectively, which align with the professor's provided values. The gain expression simplifies under certain frequency conditions, illustrating how gain varies with frequency in the circuit. The exercise highlights the significant damping present in the circuit, indicating a complex response at resonance.
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Homework Statement
A resonant RLC circuit can be used as an amplifier for a certain band of frequencies around the resonant frequency. Consider a series RLC circuit as an audio band amplifier with an AC voltage source as the input, and the voltage across the 8.0 Ω resistor as the output. The amplifier should have a gain (=output/input) of 0.5 at 200Hz and 4000Hz. What is the required value of the inductor in Henry's? What is the required value of the capacitor in Farad's?
Relevant Equations
At resonance, ##\displaystyle\omega_0=\frac{1}{\sqrt{LC}}##
##\omega=2\pi f##
##\displaystyle A_V=\frac{V_{output}}{V_{input}}##
Amplifier gain ##A_V## is defined as the ratio of an amplifier's output voltage to its input voltage,
i.e. ##\displaystyle\frac{V_R}{V}=\frac{IR}{IZ}=\frac{R}{R}=0.5## at 200 Hz.

But this is absurd. Where have I gone wrong? Please nudge me in the right direction.
 
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I think I got it!

##R/Z_1=0.5## at ##\omega=2\pi\cdot 200##

##R/Z_2=0.5## at ##\omega=2\pi\cdot 4000##

I have 2 equations and 2 unknowns L and C. (R is given.)
 
Hmm....solving those 2 equations is harder than I expected.

The first equation says that ##Z_1=R/0.5=2R## at ##\omega=400\pi## rad/s

##R^2+(X_L-X_C)^2=4R^2## at ##\omega=400\pi## rad/s

##(X_L-X_C)^2=3R^2=192## at ##\omega=400\pi## rad/s

##\displaystyle\left(\omega L-\frac{1}{\omega C}\right)^2=192## at ##\omega=400\pi## rad/s

##\displaystyle\left(400\pi L-\frac{1}{400\pi C}\right)^2=192##

##\displaystyle 400\pi L-\frac{1}{400\pi C}=\pm 13.856##

Similarly, from the second equation,

##\displaystyle 8000\pi L-\frac{1}{8000\pi C}=\pm 13.856##

But I can't decide which is + and which is -.

Please help!
 
So you get four answers ? All with positive ##\omega##?

[edit] :smile: I mean sensible ##L##, ##C## ?
 
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##\displaystyle 8000\pi L-\frac{1}{8000\pi C}=\pm 13.856##

Let us multiply the above equation by 20. We get

##\displaystyle 160000\pi L-\frac{1}{400\pi C}=\pm 13.856\times 20## ----------- (1)

The other equation is

##\displaystyle 400\pi L-\frac{1}{400\pi C}=\pm 13.856## ----------- (2)

Subtracting equation (2) from (1), we get ##159600\pi L## on the left-hand side.

Note that since the left-hand side is positive, the right-hand side also must be positive. Thus we may pick the positive sign in equation (1). ##400\pi C## is going to be extremely small. So, ##\displaystyle\frac{1}{400\pi C}## is going to be extremely large--larger than ##400\pi L##. So, we pick the negative sign in equation (2).

##159600\pi L=13.856\times 20-(-13.856)=13.856\times 21##

##L=5.80E-4## H

Substituting this value of ##L## in one of our equations, we get ##C=5.46E-5## F

Both these values match the ones given by our prof. :)
 
There is so much good stuff in this exercise, I can't help but add a few comments :smile:

The 'gain' expression for this circuit $$A_V = {R\over \sqrt{R^2 +\left (\omega L-{1\over \omega C}\right)^2}}$$simplifies to $$\begin{align*}
A_V &= \omega RC \quad &\text{for}\quad \omega << \omega_0 \\
A_V &= R/(\omega L) \quad &\text{for}\quad \omega >> \omega_0
\end{align*} $$as a plot of ##A## vs frequency shows (log-log plot so that approximations show up as straight lines; also: ##\omega_0 = \sqrt{\omega_2\omega_1} \Rightarrow f_0= 894 Hz##).

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(Blue horizontal line for ##A_V = 0.5##)

In the exercise circuit, damping is considerable (##\omega_2-\omega_1 > \omega_0## -- I get ##\alpha = 7332\ (1167 \ {\sf\text{Hz}}), \ \zeta = 1.3 ) ## for the points where ##A={1\over 2}\sqrt 2##.

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