Amplitude of a wave hitting a boat

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The discussion revolves around determining the amplitude of a wave affecting the height difference between two boats in heavy waves. The original poster presents a scenario where the heights of the boats vary between 2.1 m and 4.5 m, with the centers of the boats being half a wavelength apart.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the heights of the boats and the concept of amplitude, questioning the interpretation of the height differences and the positions of the boats. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of maximum and minimum heights and how they relate to the amplitude of the wave.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed through various interpretations of the problem, with participants providing hints and examples to clarify the concepts involved. Some have suggested visualizing the problem using sine waves and exploring the implications of height differences in relation to wave amplitude. There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate the amplitude based on the given height differences.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the climb between the boats varies and that the average height difference is relevant to understanding the problem. The discussion includes considerations of how the wave affects the height of each boat and the implications of these changes on the climb between them.

  • #31


No.

The climb is changing, but stays in the range between 2.1m and 4.5m. What would be the average?
 
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  • #32


avg = 3.3 m
 
  • #33


Okay, good. With no wave present, the height difference (or the climb, as they put it) will be 3.3 m.

Now let's add the waves. The boats are 1/2 wavelength apart, so when the taller boat height is higher by A (the amplitude), the shorter boat is lower by A.

So take that 3.3m climb, and:
1. raise the tall boat by a distance A
2. lower the shorter boat by a distance A

What will the climb be then (in terms of A and the 3.3m)?
 
  • #34


tall boat will be 8.7 m
shorter boat will be 1.2 m

so the climb will be 7.5 m?
 
  • #35


Well, that would be impossible given that the climb is never more than 4.5 m maximum.
 
  • #36


How do I know what the amplitudes are?
 
  • #37


You don't. That's why I called it "A". It is unknown until you find it and solve the problem.
 
  • #38


does the solution involve the quadratic equation by any chance?
 
  • #39


No.

Refering back to my post #33, let's try to imagine/picture this another way.

Suppose there is a vertical spring or elastic cord stretched out, from the deck of the shorter boat up to the deck of the taller boat. Normally, the spring is 3.3 m long (the distance between the 2 decks, with no waves present).

Now, take the top end of that spring and move it by a distance A upward. At the same time, move the bottom end of the spring downward by the same distance A.

By how much has the spring's length been increased?
 
  • #40


increases by 2A
 
  • #41


Yes, good. The spring's length has increased by 2A, from 3.3m to 3.3m+2A.

If you equate that last expression with the maximum climb given in the problem statement, you can find the amplitude A.
 
  • #42


3.3 m + 2A = 4.5 m

A= 0.6 m

Thank you for all your help!
 
  • #43


Looks good. You're welcome.
 

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