Amplitude of oscillation for SHM

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The discussion revolves around determining the amplitude of oscillation in simple harmonic motion (SHM) related to a mass in an elevator system. Participants are exploring the implications of boundary conditions and initial conditions in the context of SHM.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to relate the mass's motion to the elevator's stopping conditions, questioning how the initial state of the mass affects its subsequent oscillation. There are discussions about the velocity of the mass relative to the elevator and its starting position in the oscillation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the initial conditions, noting that the mass starts from the center of SHM with a specific velocity. There is a recognition of the need to maintain consistency in defining directions and conditions throughout the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of defining the positive direction in their calculations and how this affects the simplification of their equations. There is an acknowledgment of the initial conditions that may influence the amplitude determination.

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Homework Statement
A spring is attached to the roof of an elevator and a mass m is attached to the lower end of the spring. When the elevator is not moving, the mass undergoes a vertical SHM with frequency 2.5rad/s. Now, when the elevator is moving downwards with velocity 0.5m/s, the mass is not undergoing any SHM. Now, if the elevator suddenly stops, what will be the amplitude of oscillation of the mass m?
Relevant Equations
y = ACosωt + BSinωt
From the first part of the question, I was able to get the value of ω which will be the same for the next SHM.

But, I am having difficulties solving for the amplitude as I can't find the boundary conditions required to get the amplitude.
 
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Just before the elevator stops the mass is not moving in the elevator frame. When the elevator stops suddenly how fast is the mass moving relative to the elevator? And, considering it wasn’t oscillating a moment before, what location in the oscillation does it start?
 
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Cutter Ketch said:
Just before the elevator stops the mass is not moving in the elevator frame. When the elevator stops suddenly how fast is the mass moving relative to the elevator? And, considering it wasn’t oscillating a moment before, what location in the oscillation does it start?

When the elevator stops, the mass should move with velocity 0.5m/s wrt the elevator frame. The mass starts moving from the centre of SHM (y=0)

So, that means

y(0)=0
y'(0)=0.5

Is this right?
 
Yep, where you have defined down as the positive y direction (perfectly acceptable so long as you are consistent through the rest of the calculation)
 
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Also, y(0) = 0 should allow you to simplify your equation.
 

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