An AAS Conference Story: Hilarious and Heart-Wrenching

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The discussion revolves around experiences and challenges faced by researchers in securing funding for scientific projects, particularly in the context of an AAS conference. It touches on the emotional aspects of grant applications, the competition for funding, and the evolving landscape of financial support for research.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express humor and empathy regarding the struggles of grant applications, with one sharing a video from an AAS conference that captures these sentiments.
  • One participant relates their own experience with a grant application deadline, highlighting the stress involved.
  • Another participant notes the human side of the competitive nature of science funding, sharing their own experiences with scholarship applications.
  • There is a suggestion that researchers might benefit from training in sales to better advocate for their intangible projects, referencing NASA's funding success compared to the financial sector.
  • Some participants discuss the trend of researchers turning to crowdsourcing for funding, particularly in light of budget cuts affecting high-energy physics programs in the US.
  • Concerns are raised about the future of funding for high-energy physics, with one participant emphasizing the need for students to be aware of the ongoing financial challenges in the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of humor and concern regarding the funding landscape, with no clear consensus on solutions or the future of research funding. Multiple competing views on the effectiveness of different funding strategies are present.

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Limitations include the lack of specific data on funding outcomes and the varying definitions of success in securing research funding. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainties in the funding environment for scientific research.

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I thought this was worth sharing, filmed at an AAS conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTvajOQ_xak

Both hilarious and a little sad.
 
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I'm working on a grant application with a deadline of midnight tonight. That hit home! Hard! Ouch!

Thanks for sharing.
 
Best of luck.

Just finished filing for a bunch of post-bachelors research scholarships/apps myself, I really should get back to revising for finals!

Nice to see there's a human side to the cutthroat world of science funding
 
turbo said:
Perhaps researchers should get some training in sales, though it can be tough selling something intangible... :)

NASA has obtained $500bn of public money over their ~50 year run, which is less than the US financial sector payout that was negotiated in less than a year and didn't produce anything more tangible than what NASA produced.

If they can do it, so can you!

*sigh*
 
Lavabug said:
I thought this was worth sharing, filmed at an AAS conference:

Both hilarious and a little sad.

That's hysterical. Thanks for finding it, Lavabug!

Zz.
 
Just last night I was reading in the latest Physics Today, an article about people using crowdsourcing sites to try to get some money for their research projects.
 
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jtbell said:
Just last night I was reading the in the latest Physics Today, an article about people using crowdsourcing sites to try to get some money for their research projects.

The people in the US High Energy Physics may have to do that, or even a bake sale, if the current http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/04/obamas-2014-science-budget.html#DOE2 for the next fiscal year comes true.

In contrast, DOE's high-energy physics program, which funds work in elementary particle physics, would see its budget fall 1.7% from the 2012 level to $777 million.

HEP in the US is really under severe stress for the past few years. And students who are thinking about going into this field need to be aware of this trend that appears to not be changing anytime soon.

Zz.
 

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