An Introduction to the Traditional Abacus of China and Japan - Comments

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The discussion revolves around the traditional abacus used in China and Japan, focusing on personal experiences with learning and using the abacus for arithmetic calculations. Participants share insights about their learning processes, techniques, and the impact of the abacus on their mathematical skills.

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  • Some participants express excitement about their first insights related to the abacus.
  • Several participants share personal anecdotes about learning the abacus at a young age and how it has helped with concentration and arithmetic skills.
  • One participant mentions forgetting how to perform larger calculations but still finds simple arithmetic using the abacus natural.
  • Another participant discusses the advantages of using the abacus for quick calculations, although they note that many classmates also took abacus courses.
  • A participant describes a specific method of multiplication using the abacus, detailing the process of calculating digit by digit from left to right.
  • There is a mention of difficulties in visualizing multiple columns on the abacus, with one participant indicating they can only visualize up to three columns without error.
  • Another participant provides a formatting fix for a calculation example to improve clarity in the discussion.

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Participants generally share positive experiences and insights about the abacus, but there are varying levels of comfort and skill with its use, particularly regarding visualization and handling larger calculations. No consensus is reached on the best methods or techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the names of methods used in English and the challenges of formatting calculations in the forum. There are also indications of limitations in personal visualization skills when using the abacus.

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Readers interested in traditional calculation methods, the educational benefits of the abacus, or personal experiences with learning mathematics may find this discussion relevant.

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Ya! My first insight! Can’t believe it!
 
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Great job! Congratulations!
 
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Nice first insight. Congratulations!

I learned abacus when I was of @YoungPhysicist's age. Though I have forgotten how to do the larger calculations (like 987×6598), while doing simple arithmetic, the technique of abacus now comes naturally. It was of great help in increasing concentration when I was learning.
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
Nice first insight. Congratulations!

I learned abacus when I was of @YoungPhysicist's age. Though I have forgotten how to do the larger calculations (like 987×6598), while doing simple arithmetic, the technique of abacus now comes naturally. It was of great help in increasing concentration when I was learning.
Yeah, It really does, and also a great advantge on tests and calculations to calculate quickly(though almost everyone classmate of mine also take abacus courses with me, so the edge is not that obvious.:rolleyes:
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
(like 987×6598),
Well, we usually do that like the... ah, what is this method called in English?
Code:
      2 3
   x  4 6
   ----------
    1 3 8
    9 2
---------------
  1 0 5 8
(That looks a bit odd cause the spacing can't display properly after I submitted this post, I don't know why)
where we process it digit by digit, but from the left to the right, unlike the method I shown above, which is right to the left.
thus your peoblem will be done in 12 steps:
  1. 9x6
  2. 9x5
  3. 9x8
  4. 9x9
  5. 8x6
  6. 8x5
  7. 8x8
  8. 8x9
  9. 7x6
  10. 7x5
  11. 7x8
  12. 7x9
Just make sure the calculations are placed on the right column.
 
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I fixed the spacing using code tags which preserve the leading spaces and uses a mono spaced font.
 
YoungPhysicist said:
Well, we usually do that like the... ah, what is this method called in English?
Code:
      2 3
   x  4 6
   ----------
    1 3 8
    9 2
---------------
  1 0 5 8
(That looks a bit odd cause the spacing can't display properly after I submitted this post, I don't know why)
where we process it digit by digit, but from the left to the right, unlike the method I shown above, which is right to the left.
thus your peoblem will be done in 12 steps:
  1. 9x6
  2. 9x5
  3. 9x8
  4. 9x9
  5. 8x6
  6. 8x5
  7. 8x8
  8. 8x9
  9. 7x6
  10. 7x5
  11. 7x8
  12. 7x9
Just make sure the calculations are placed on the right column.
Yes, it was done like that; I can recall some of it. But visualising so many columns was (and still is) a difficult job for me. I can correctly visualise upto three columns on the abacus board currently; and anything more than that generally leads to an error. Maybe you can blame the calculator to some extent :wink:
 
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