An intuitive approach to torque's dependence on radius

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Torque is fundamentally dependent on the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation, as established by the equation T = F * d. An intuitive understanding can be gained by recognizing that a force applied at the center of an object does not induce rotation, while an off-center force does. This relationship highlights the importance of the lever arm in determining an object's rotational ability, which can be further understood through static force analysis without relying on conservation laws. For a deeper exploration, refer to the PDF shared by Phillip Wood in the discussion.

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Does anyone have an intuitive explanation for why torque depends on the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation? I understand the maths and fully accept the truth of the description, but CANNOT wrap my brain around the reason. The ball and spring model of a solid seems like a place to start? The uneven acceleration of a body's particles must play a role, since this is what defines rotational motion. References to conservation of energy seem to simply beg the question. In terms of the various linear tendencies of component particles, how does an increase in radius actually change the distribution of force on a body?
 
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It's a definition, T = F * d

No balls or springs required, whatever they are for.
 
BrainSalad said:
Does anyone have an intuitive explanation for why torque depends on the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation?
I have two ideas for you:

1) It should be intuitively obvious that a force applied at the center, will not rotate the object (Which way would it rotate, if it did?). So if we accept that an off-center force does rotate the object, there must be some dependency between "the ability to rotate" and "point of application".

2) To understand why "the ability to rotate" is proportional to the lever arm, it is useful to consider a static case, where a small force counters a greater force rotationally. The proportionality can be derived from static linear forces only, without invoking conservation laws. See the PDF posted by Phillip Wood in post #10 here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=4486117
 

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