An intuitive meaning to the phase constant k?

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The discussion revolves around the phase constant k in the context of harmonic waves, specifically in the equation ψ(x,t) = Asin(kx - ωt). Participants explore the intuitive meaning of k, its relationship to wave properties, and its mathematical implications in both one-dimensional and three-dimensional wave propagation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that k is defined to ensure the period of sin(kx) corresponds to the wavelength λ, but questions if there is a deeper significance to k beyond this definition.
  • Another participant identifies k as the 'wave number' and references its definition from a Wikipedia article.
  • A different participant relates k to the concept of "spatial frequency," likening it to the angular frequency ω associated with time.
  • One participant challenges the connection between the radius and circumference of the generating circle for sinusoids and the parameters ω or k, asserting that the radius pertains to amplitude rather than frequency.
  • Another participant proposes a method to understand k by fixing time and varying space, and vice versa for ω, reinforcing the idea of k as "spatial frequency" and ω as "temporal frequency."

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Participants express differing views on the intuitive understanding of k, with some agreeing on its designation as a spatial analogue of ω, while others contest the relationship between k and geometric properties of the sinusoidal representation.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the relationship between k, ω, and the geometric interpretations of sinusoidal functions, as well as the implications of these definitions in higher dimensions.

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k being the one from the harmonic wave ψ(x,t) = Asin(kx - ωt) where k = 2π/λ

The way I see it right now, k is just defined this way to get the period of sin(x) to be λ by using sin(kx), so I wondered if there's something more to it. (Though I know it can be used as an vector to declare the direction of the wave.)

I played with the trig stuff a bit. I know that a harmonic wave can be traced by a point in a circular motion. sin(x) traces the circle with a period of 2π so I take that to be a circle with 2π circumference and radius 1. Doing the same with sin(kx) gets a circle with λ circumference and radius 1/k.

So k seems to be related to 1/r or the curvature? I found it interesting too that if I directly substitute k with 1/r, the ω in ω = v/r from mechanics can be found with the ω in ω = kv from waves.

Is there some insight to take away from this?
 
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From that wiki, I like the phrase "spatial frequency". Thats how I internalize it. Its the spatial version of time's "omega" (angular frequency).
 
The radius and circumference of the 'generating' circle for sinusoids aren't related to either \omega, or its spatial analogue, k. The circle radius gives the amplitude of the sinusoid.

I don't think you're going to get a much better intuitive feel for k than what I've just mentioned: it's the spatial analogue of \omega. But there's rather a neat extension to the idea when you deal with waves propagating in 3 dimensions. We then define a vector, \vec{k}, having a magnitude, k, equal to \frac{2\pi}{\lambda} and direction that of the direction of wave propagation. This enables neat mathematical handling of wave propagation equations. For example, the displacement, y, at any point in the path of a plane sinusoidal wave may be written as
y =y_0 sin [\omega t - \vec{k}.\vec{r} + \epsilon].
 
For the OP.
To understand the meaning of k: fix the time t, as if you made a photo of the experiment and see what happens mathematically varying the point x of the space (you can fix t = 0).
To understand the meaning of ω: fix a point x of the space (you can choose x = 0) and see what happens varying the time.

You then understand why, as someone has already written, k can be called "spatial frequency" and ω can be called "temporal frequency".

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