Analysis Help; proofs via axioms

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \((a+b+c)^2 \leq 3(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)\) for any real numbers \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\), using specified axioms related to ordering and properties of real numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish the inequality by considering the implications of the axioms provided, expressing uncertainty about their approach and seeking hints. Some participants suggest expanding the left-hand side and using properties from the axioms to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a hint about expanding the expression and using the axioms to justify steps. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a preference for combinatorial thinking, indicating a potential challenge in adapting to the axiomatic approach required for this proof. There is also a mention of a related concept (Cauchy-Schwartz) that cannot be used directly in the proof.

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Analysis Help; proofs via axioms :)

1. The problem statement:

Prove that for any real numbers a, b, c,
[tex](a+b+c)^2\leq3*(a^2 +b^2+c^2)[/tex]​


2. These are the axioms we are permitted to use:

01) Exactly one of these hold: a<b, a=b, or b<a
02) If a<b, and b<c, then a<c
03) If a<b, then a+c < b+c for every c
04) If a<b and 0<c, then ac<bc.


The Attempt at a Solution



It follows from problem number 1, that
[tex]0\leq(a + b)^2[/tex]

So can we say that
[tex]0\leq(a + b + c)^2[/tex]
and would this help me to solve the proof? I'm having a great deal of trouble getting used to thinking like this; I'm very used to thinking combinatorially. :blushing:
I do know that this is a special case of the Cauchy-Schwartz Sequence where we have
[tex](a_{1}+a_{2}+a_{3})^2\leq3*(a_{1}^2 +a_{2}^2+a_{3}^2)[/tex]​
I'm just not allowed to use that fact to proove it :cool:


Any help/hints would be greatly appreciated, and I always do my best to return the favor! Thank you so much for your time!
 
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A good way to work on a problem like this is to simplify it the only ways you know how and then work backwards, maybe modifying your work, to justify your steps. Expand the left hand side. You will get three squares and a multiple of 2. Now use your property (3) to cancel out the three squares and consider property (4). I hope things have cleared up after this. After you've seen the way you can work backwards to justify your steps.
 


VeeEight said:
A good way to work on a problem like this is to simplify it the only ways you know how and then work backwards, maybe modifying your work, to justify your steps. Expand the left hand side. You will get three squares and a multiple of 2. Now use your property (3) to cancel out the three squares and consider property (4). I hope things have cleared up after this. After you've seen the way you can work backwards to justify your steps.

Haha yes, this is more than helpful. Thank you for this hint, it will be well used, and is well appreciated.
 


Great! Glad you have worked it out
 

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