Analysis of the Isospin of meson and baryon bounded states (particle physics)

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The discussion revolves around the isospin of meson and baryon bound states in particle physics, specifically focusing on combinations of particles and their possible isospin states. The original poster presents a problem involving the isospin values of various particle combinations and seeks to establish which combinations can exist in a state of I=1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the addition rules of angular momentum to determine the isospin states of different particle combinations. They express concern about the implications of the problem's wording and question whether their understanding of isospin conservation is correct. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the conservation of spin in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster reflecting on their understanding and seeking confirmation of their reasoning. There is an indication of a realization regarding a mistake in their initial approach, but no consensus has been reached. The original poster is looking for feedback on their interpretations and calculations.

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The original poster mentions the importance of this problem for their exam, indicating a time constraint and the need for clarity in their understanding. There is also a concern about the lack of responses from other participants, which may affect their confidence in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Part A)

Establish which of the following combinations of particles can exist in a state of I=1 :

a) \pi^0\pi^0
b) \pi^+\pi^-
c) \pi^+\pi^+
d) \Sigma^0\pi^0
e) \Lambda^0\pi^0

Part B) of the problem is:

In what states of isospin may exist the following systems?

f) \pi^+\pi^-\pi^0

g) \pi^0\pi^0\pi^0

Homework Equations



Conservation of the Isospin.

Addition rules of angular momenta (the same rules of the Isospin)

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I have searched which are the values of the Isospin of the particles, and this is what i have found:

- I=1 for the pions

- I=1 for the sigma barion

- I=0 for the lambda baryon

Using the addition rules of the angular momenta in every case give me this result:

J = j1+j2 , j1+j2-1, j1+j2-2 ... /j1-j2/ ; in the case of j1 > j2

a) I=1, I=1, so the total Isospin of the coupled state could be I=2,1,0 , and this three states of total Isospin are including 1 of the statement, so this combination can exist.

b) c) d) are the same case of the a).

e) Now we have I=0 for the lambda baryon and I=1 for the pion so:

Total I= 1, 0 and the state is posible again because I=1 is a posible value. It is very strange that the first statement of the problem talks about "which of the following..." in singular, but ¿does it mean that there is only one answer?.

Surprisingly i have found that all the states are possible, and this is worrying me.

For the part B) we have:

f)

\pi^+\pi^-\pi^0 , all of them have I=1 , I have used the results of part A) and then i have added the Isospin of the third particle.

So for the \pi^+\pi^- , I have I= 2, 1 ,0 , let's analyze the three cases:

I=2, the pi0 isospin is I=1 so : I total= 3,2,1

I=1, and I=1 so I total=2,1,0

I=0, and I=1 so I total = 1, 0

But the Isospin must be conserved, so the only possibility is I total = 3.

¿is this right?g)

If i am not wrong is the same case as f) .

But this looks very strange, i don't understand why there are a lot of parts similar, I am almost convinced that i am doing something wrong.

¿have I applied correctly the theory of the angular momentum? ¿Should I calculate the eigenstates, eigenvalues... with clebsh gordan coefficients?.

I have to send some problems (one of them is the one of this thread) to my teacher and it will be the 15 % of the value of the exam, so it is very important for me, if I am rigth ¿Could somebody confirm it?.

Thanks.
 
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Now i understand the mistake in part A) I had forgotten conservation of the spin in a)b)c)d) , these combinations can only have I=2 due to conservation, and the correct answer of the problem is part e) .

It's much more logical.

¿What do you think?.
 
Hello Is there anybody here?
 
There aren't answers in this thread ¿Can anybody explain to me why? . I think that I have followed the rules of the forum, perhaps I am doing something wrong ¿Could you tell me what it is?.

Thanks in advance, I am very sorry for this.
 

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