Analysis: proving inverses involving sets

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of inverse functions involving sets, specifically focusing on the relationships between the inverse images of unions and intersections of subsets of a codomain.

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of inverse images and explore how to prove the properties of unions and intersections. There are attempts to clarify the steps needed to show that one set is a subset of another, as well as questions about the implications of these definitions.

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Some participants have provided partial proofs and guidance on how to approach the problem, while others express confusion about the suggested methods. There is an ongoing exploration of the logical steps required to complete the proofs.

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Participants are working under the constraints of proving set equalities and are discussing the necessary logical steps without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and relationships involved in the problem.

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Let f: X → Y and A is a subset of Y and B is a subset of Y. Prove that:

a) f⁻¹(A union B) = f⁻¹(A) union f⁻¹(B)
b) f⁻¹(A intersetion B) = f⁻¹(A) intersection f⁻¹(B).

I know that f⁻¹(A) = {x ε X : f(x) ε A}
and so f⁻¹(B) {x ε X : f(x) ε B}

but after that I really don't understand how to prove this.
 
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vikkisut88 said:
Let f: X → Y and A is a subset of Y and B is a subset of Y. Prove that:

a) f⁻¹(A union B) = f⁻¹(A) union f⁻¹(B)
b) f⁻¹(A intersetion B) = f⁻¹(A) intersection f⁻¹(B).

I know that f⁻¹(A) = {x ε X : f(x) ε A}
and so f⁻¹(B) {x ε X : f(x) ε B}

but after that I really don't understand how to prove this.
Any time you are asked to prove X= Y for sets X and Y you do two things:
Prove that X is a subset of Y and then that Y is a subset of X.

To prove X is a subset of Y, you start "if x is a member of X" and then use the definitions of X and Y to show that x must be a member of Y.

For example, here, if x is in f-1(A union B) then f(x) is in A union B. That means either f(x) is in A or f(x) is in B. If f(x) is in A, then x is in f-1(A). If f(x) is in B, then x is in f-1(B). In either case, x is in f-1(A) union f-1(B). That proves that f-1(A union B) is a subset of f-1(A) union f-1(B). Now do it the other way: if x is in f-1(A) union f-1(B), then ...
 
Welcome to PF, vikkisut.
It's really just a matter of plugging in the definitions:
[tex]f^{-1}(A \cup B) = \{ x \in X: f(x) \in A \cup B \} \stackrel{\star}{=} \{ x \in X: f(x) \in A \text{ or } f(x) \in B \} \stackrel{\star}{=} \{ x \in X: f(x) \in A \} \cup \{ x \in X: f(x) \in B \} = f^{-1}(A) \cup f^{-1}(B)[/tex]
That is just a partial proof though; I have marked two of the identities with a [itex]\star[/itex], I suggest you try to prove these by a standard argument (let x be in one of them and show that it is in the other and vice versa).
 
CompuChip said:
That is just a partial proof though; I have marked two of the identities with a [itex]\star[/itex], I suggest you try to prove these by a standard argument (let x be in one of them and show that it is in the other and vice versa).

Sorry I don't quite understand what you're suggesting me to do there? Let x be in what exactly? Be part part of A, and then show that it is in B?
 
No, let it be in
[tex]\{ x \in X: f(x) \in A \cup B \}[/tex]
and prove it to be in
[tex]\{ x \in X: f(x) \in A \} \cup \{ x \in X: f(x) \in B \}[/tex]
Also see HallsOfIvy's post, for more explanation.

[edit]You should also prove the converse of course, letting it be in the latter and showing that it is in the former.[/edit]

[edit]1500 posts by the way, almost went unnoticed :-p[/edit]
 
oh okay, thank you very much :)
 

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