Analyzing and Sketching Function: xy^2-x^2y+x+y=2 | Help with Homework Problem

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The problem involves analyzing and sketching the function defined by the equation \(xy^2 - x^2y + x + y = 2\). Participants are exploring methods to approach this analysis and sketching task, which falls under the subject area of algebraic functions and their graphical representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest treating \(x\) as a constant to form a quadratic equation in \(y\), which can then be solved for various \(x\) values to identify points for sketching. Others express confusion regarding the simplification of derived equations and the identification of valid solutions for the quartic equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different methods and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding plotting points and using coordinate transformations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity of the quartic equation derived from the original function and are exploring the implications of different coordinate transformations. There are mentions of potential forbidden regions for solutions, indicating that certain ranges of \(x\) or \(y\) may yield no valid outputs.

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Hi guys I have been stuck on this for the better part of a day today and was wondering if anyone could help. I really can't seem to know even where to start.

I have to Analyse and sketch the function: $$xy^2-x^2y+x+y=2$$

I have not got a lot in the attempt solution because I am very lost. Can someone please give me an idea on how to tackle these types of problems.

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1. $$x=0, y=2, y=0, x=2$$#

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If you think of ##x## as a constant what you have is a quadratic equation in ##y##, which you can solve, and then plot the ##(x,y)## pairs that are the solutions of that equation. By doing that for a number of different values of ##x## you can identify enough points to sketch to form an idea of the shape of the function.
 
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This is the equation, that I got this morning, $$y=\frac{\left(x^2-1\right)\pm\sqrt{\left(1-x^2\right)^2-4x\left(x-2\right)}}{2x}$$. But this is where I was getting stuck because I could not find values for the quartic >0. This is why I thought this method I was doing was wrong. The values I got for x^4-6x+8x+1=0 was x=-1 and x=-0.544.
 
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This is the equation, that I got this morning, $$y=\frac{\left(x^2-1\right)\pm\sqrt{\left(1-x^2\right)^2-4x\left(x-2\right)}}{2x}$$. But this is where I was getting stuck because I could not find values for the quartic >0. This is why I thought this method I was doing was wrong. The values I got for x^4-6x+8x+1=0 was x=-1 and x=-0.544.
Your solution for y looks fine, as far as you took it, but when you simplify the radical you should get ##x^4 - 6x^2 + 8x + 1##, which is different from what you show. Also, -1 is not a root of the equation ####x^4 - 6x^2 + 8x + 1 = 0##.

Use andrewkirk's suggestion of putting in values of x to get y values. Do this to get a number of points to get an idea of what the graph looks like.
 
On a whim, I tried the rotation x+y=u, x-y=v. This gave uv = -2±√(4+8v+v4). Marginally simpler? It makes an asymptote easy to find.
 
Thanks @Mark44 and @haruspex for the help. @haruspex at this moment in time I have not come across rotation only in matrices so ur method has sparked interest. Could you either expand on this on maybe point me to a website to read up of this method myself?
 
Taylor_1989 said:
Thanks @Mark44 and @haruspex for the help. @haruspex at this moment in time I have not come across rotation only in matrices so ur method has sparked interest. Could you either expand on this on maybe point me to a website to read up of this method myself?
It's just a change of coordinates. The u and v axes are at 45 degrees to the x and y axes. Actually it is not a pure rotation, there is also an expansion by a factor of √2. To make it a pure rotation you would have to use u=(x+y)/√2 etc. but for the purposes of sketching the graph you can fix that up later.
Here is another trick to try...
Figure out some forbidden regions. For what range of x does y have no solutions, and vice versa? Likewise u and v?
 

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