Analyzing Convergence of 1/n(ln n)^p and 1/((n(ln n)(ln (ln n)))^p

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of two series: 1/(n(ln n)^p) and 1/((n(ln n)(ln(ln n)))^p. Participants are exploring the conditions under which these series converge or diverge, focusing on the parameter p>0. The context includes mathematical reasoning and application of convergence tests.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the values of p for which the series converges or diverges.
  • Another participant suggests using the integral test to analyze convergence.
  • A different participant introduces a criterion involving the convergence of series related to logarithmic terms, specifically mentioning that \(\sum a_n\) converges if \(\sum 2^n a_{2^n}\) converges, noting its usefulness for series involving ln(n).
  • There is a mention of the ratio test as a method to determine the values of p.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the series being monotonically decreasing for the aforementioned criterion to apply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various methods and criteria for analyzing convergence, but there is no consensus on the specific values of p or the best approach to take. Multiple competing views and techniques remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of the series and the applicability of the convergence tests are not fully explored, leaving open questions about the conditions under which these tests are valid.

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Hi, I just wondering if someone can help me on this question.

1) 1/(n(ln n ) ^p)

2) 1/((n(ln n)(ln (ln n))))^p

Both are b = infinity and a = 1 for the integral signs.

The question is for what value of p>0 does the series converges and for what value does it diverges.

Thank you !
 
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There was a similar question in the HW section recently. Use the integral test.
 
Do you know about the criterion [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges iff [itex]\sum 2^n a_{2^n}[/itex] converges? It is usefull for series involving ln(n) because ln(2^n)=nln(2) !

Then, for the values of p, use the ratio test (a_{n+1}/a_n).
 
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quasar987 said:
Do you know about the criterion [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges iff [itex]\sum 2^n a_{2^n}[/itex] converges?

It's important to keep in mind this only works when the series is monotonically decreasing (which this one is). Otherwise, just take the terms to be all 1's except for 0's when n is a power of 2.
 

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