Analyzing Functions with Cauchy-Riemann Equations

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Cauchy-Riemann equations to determine the analyticity of functions and the process of finding their derivatives. Participants are exploring how to express functions in terms of the complex variable z.

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  • Participants are attempting to rewrite functions using the Cauchy-Riemann equations and express them in terms of the complex variable z. Questions arise regarding the definition of the derivative and the appropriate techniques for differentiation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on rewriting functions and simplifying expressions. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of derivative definitions and techniques, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of expressing functions in terms of z and are considering various mathematical rules and definitions. There is an emphasis on ensuring that final expressions do not include x or y.

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Here I attached the question and what I have done so far. I have used the cauchy.riemann equations to check if the functions are analytical or not. The first one turns out to be analytical, but I don't know how to find its derivative function and how do I express it as a z function?
 

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Hint: Rewrite the first equation as $$f(x,y) = e^x x (\cos y + i \sin y) + e^x y (i\cos y - \sin y)$$

Now do some further manipulations and simplify, so as to be left with something purely in terms of ##z = x+iy##.
 
CAF123 said:
Hint: Rewrite the first equation as $$f(x,y) = e^x x (\cos y + i \sin y) + e^x y (i\cos y - \sin y)$$

Now do some further manipulations and simplify, so as to be left with something purely in terms of ##z = x+iy##.

But what about this formula? I got this from a textbook. f'(z0) here is the derive function.
 

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MissP.25_5 said:
But what about this formula? I got this from a textbook. f'(z0) here is the derive function.

Once you rewrite ##f(x,y)## as defined in the last post entirely in terms of ##z##, then computing df/dz is arguably easier.

Use Euler's formula when simplifying ##f(x,y)##.

Edit: I just saw your attachment. That is the definition of the derivative. But generally speaking there are techniques you should use such as product rule which are easier to deal with for more complicated functions.
 
CAF123 said:
Once you rewrite ##f(x,y)## as defined in the last post entirely in terms of ##z##, then computing df/dz is arguably easier.

Use Euler's formula when simplifying ##f(x,y)##.

Edit: I just saw your attachment. That is the definition of the derivative. But generally speaking there are techniques you should use such as product rule which are easier to deal with for more complicated functions.

So the one I just attached is not a formula but actually just a definition of the derivative?
 
MissP.25_5 said:
So the one I just attached is not a formula but actually just a definition of the derivative?
It can be used in practice too, but even with the most simplest of functions you'd better off using the power rule, product rule etc..

E.g assuming you are familiar with the real version, let ##f(x) = x^2##. By power rule, ##df/dx = 2x##. Done.

By the definition of the derivative, $$f'(x) = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{(x+h)^2 - x^2}{h} = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{2hx + h^2}{h} = 2x.
$$
Then try it with ##f(x) = \sqrt{x}## and already more manipulations needed.
 
CAF123 said:
Hint: Rewrite the first equation as $$f(x,y) = e^x x (\cos y + i \sin y) + e^x y (i\cos y - \sin y)$$

Now do some further manipulations and simplify, so as to be left with something purely in terms of ##z = x+iy##.

Is this what you mean? Did I do it correctly?
 

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MissP.25_5 said:
Is this what you mean? Did I do it correctly?
Close, but ##-1/i = i##, so you messed up a sign. Other than that, looks fine. Now use the fact that ##z = x+iy## to obtain a function all in terms of z.

Note also by simply factoring out ##i## from the second term you get ##ie^x y(\cos y + i\sin y) = ie^x ye^{iy}##, so no need to mess about with more definitions.
 
CAF123 said:
Close, but ##-1/i = i##, so you messed up a sign. Other than that, looks fine. Now use the fact that ##z = x+iy## to obtain a function all in terms of z.

Note also by simply factoring out ##i## from the second term you get ##ie^x y(\cos y + i\sin y) = ie^x ye^{iy}##, so no need to mess about with more definitions.

Now is this correct?
So, next how do I obtain a function?
 

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MissP.25_5 said:
Now is this correct?
So, next how do I obtain a function?
Yes, it is correct. But you can simplify further. ##e^a e^b = \dots## and use that z = x+iy.
 
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CAF123 said:
Yes, it is correct. But you can simplify further. ##e^a e^b = \dots## and use that z = x+iy.

You mean like this? Is that the final answer?
 

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MissP.25_5 said:
You mean like this? Is that the final answer?
One last simplification you can make. Make sure you have only z in your expression (no appearances of x or y). Then are you after df/dz?
 
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CAF123 said:
One last simplification you can make. Make sure you have only z in your expression (no appearances of x or y). Then are you after df/dz?

Aha! I think I got it. Is this right?
 

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MissP.25_5 said:
Aha! I think I got it. Is this right?

Yeah, it is good now.
 
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