Angular Acceleration and Torque

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The problem involves a stuntman lowering himself from a balcony using a rope attached to a rotating cylinder. The subject area includes concepts of angular acceleration, torque, and the dynamics of rotational motion.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and the relationship between the forces acting on the stuntman and the cylinder. There are attempts to derive equations relating tension, weight, and angular acceleration. Some participants question the assumptions made about the forces involved.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces and torques in the system. Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, and there is a recognition of the need for additional equations to fully solve the problem. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the reasoning behind the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of free body diagrams and the distinction between the forces acting on the stuntman and the cylinder. There is mention of a deadline for finals, indicating a time constraint for the original poster.

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Homework Statement


To lower himself from a balcony an 80kg stuntman grabs a rope connected to a 400kg cylinder with a 1.2m diameter that is free to rotate about its axis of symmetry. What is the stuntman's acceleration as he falls?

Homework Equations


I missed this on a homework assignment. I know the correct answer is 2.86m/s2 but I can't find what I did wrong.

The Attempt at a Solution


moment of inertia for a cylinder: I=1/2 Mr2
radius of cylinder = 0.6m

torque applied by stuntman = mgr = 80kg * 9.8m/s2 * 0.6m = 470.4Nm
Using t = Iα
470.4Nm = (0.5 * 400kg * 0.6m2
α = 470.4Nm / (0.5 * 400kg * 0.6m2) = 6.53rad/s2
a = αr = 6.53rad/s2 * 0.6m = 3.92m/s2

What am I missing?
 
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jakec said:
torque applied by stuntman = mgr = 80kg * 9.8m/s2 * 0.6m = 470.4Nm
Hello. This is not the correct expression for the torque. The tension in the rope is not equal to the weight of the man. The tension is one of the unknowns. That means you'll need an additional equation besides ##\tau = I \alpha##. Be sure to draw free body diagrams for both the cylinder and the man.
 
The force on the stuntman is accelerating the stuntman as well as turning the cylinder. You need to work out how to partition the force into those two parts.
 
OK, so this is what I have now. I'm still a little off from the answer I should get. Any suggestions of what I can do better? (hopefully in time for finals tomorrow)

T= tension
ζ = torque
W = weight of stuntman

∑ζ = Iα
Since the tension in the cord is the only force providing torque:
Tr = Iα
Tr = (1/2 Mr2)(a/r)
T = 1/2 Ma

ΣF = ma
W - T = ma
Substituting from above:
W - (1/2 Ma) = ma
a = (2mg) / (2m +M)

a = (2 * 80kg * 9.8m/s2) / (2 * 80kg + 400kg) = 2.8 m/s2
 
Your work looks correct to me. I also get 2.8 m/s2.
 
Great! Thanks for the help!
 

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