Angular Accelerations of Rigid Bodies with Applied Forces

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves three blocks on a frictionless surface, each subjected to identical forces applied at different points. The task includes analyzing the accelerations of the blocks' centers of mass and considering the effects of force application points on these accelerations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss whether the accelerations of the blocks' centers of mass are equal or differ based on the point of force application. Some express confusion about the relationship between applied force, rotation, and acceleration.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between force application points and center of mass acceleration. Some participants suggest that all accelerations might be equal, while others propose that differences in force application could lead to varying accelerations. Hints and questions about angular acceleration are also raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the effects of force application on both linear and angular motion. The problem is framed as a conceptual exercise, and there is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the question, particularly about whether angular accelerations are being considered.

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Homework Statement


Three blocks are initially at rest on a level frictionless surface. At t=0s, a three identical forces are applied to a different point on each block.
Each block is a rectangle approximately 3x1 oriented with the long sides facing north/south. The center of mass on each block is at (1.5,.5) if the lower left corner of the block is (0,0)

The force on block 1 is applied at about (1,.5)
The force on block 2 is applied at the center of mass
The force on block 3 is applied at about (3,.5)

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a) Draw an arrow on the diagram indicating the direction of acceleration of each blocks center of mass. If the acceleration is zero, state so explicitly.
b) Rank the center of mass accelerations from largest to smallest and explain. Draw a point FBD for each block

Homework Equations


Conceptual problem.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think that all the accelerations will be equal. Accelerations are equal at the center of mass regardless of where the force is applied. However I'm confused because it seems like some of the force should go to rotating the object, and if that is true, the accelerations of each of these objects centers of mass will be different.
So either B1=B2=B3 or B2>B1>B3. The FBDs would be different depending on each. If B1=B2=B3, they would be quite simple, just one vector pointing North, but if B2>B1>B3, there would be (I think) the same but with different magnitudes.

It's a pretty simple problem I think, but I may have overthought it and become confused. Help!
Thanks.
 
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I'm going with B3>B1>B2. I'm basing this on the idea that the force has the biggest advantage with B3 because the surface is shouldering half the weight. Regardless of direction, the magnitude would be greater. Maybe?? heh
 
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KBL-8 said:
I think that all the accelerations will be equal. Accelerations are equal at the center of mass regardless of where the force is applied. However I'm confused because it seems like some of the force should go to rotating the object, and if that is true, the accelerations of each of these objects centers of mass will be different.

Hi KBL-8! Welcome to PF! :smile:

You're confused because you're thinking that the rotation of a body might decrease (or increase) its acceleration.

Hint: what is the total acceleration of a body relative to its centre of mass? :smile:
 
there's an explanation here:

phys150.wikispaces.com/torque+on+blocks
 
KBL-8 said:
… center of mass accelerations …

Hi KBL-8! :smile:

Are you sure the book isn't asking for the angular accelerations?

That would make a lot more sense! :smile:
 

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