Angular and Linear Motion on a Merry-Go-Round: A Logic Check

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The discussion revolves around understanding the physics of angular and linear motion on a merry-go-round. It clarifies that both the boy and girl experience the same angular displacement and angular speed, as these quantities do not depend on their respective distances from the center. The boy has greater linear speed and centripetal acceleration due to his position at the outer edge, while tangential acceleration is the same for both since their angular speed is constant. The participants engage in a logical analysis of the relationships between radius, speed, and acceleration, leading to a better understanding of these concepts. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between angular and linear quantities in rotational motion.
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series of questions that I need to know if my logic behind the answers is correct.

A boy and a girl are riding on a merry-go-round which is turning at a constant rate. The boy is near the outer edge and the girl is closer to the center. Who has the

1. greater angular displacement
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular displacement
I figured it would be the girl because angular displacement is inversely proportional to the radius because of arc length=(radius)(angular disp).

2. greater angular speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular velocity
I thought it would be the girl again since v=rw so if the radius decreases, the angular velocity increases.

3. greater linear speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same linear speed
I'm unsure of this one. I'd probably choose the boy since I think he has a greater displacement, so the velocity would be higher.

4. greater centripetal acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I thought that the answer would be the girl because a(sub c)=(v^2)/r so if the radius went up like the boy's then the acceleration would go down. I'm not sure if I used the right equation for this one...

5. greater tangential acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I completely guessed on this one and said they had the same since tangential acceleration = r(ang accel). Yeah, I really don't get this one.

Are these right?
 
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random26 said:

A boy and a girl are riding on a merry-go-round which is turning at a constant rate. The boy is near the outer edge and the girl is closer to the center. Who has the

1. greater angular displacement
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular displacement
I figured it would be the girl because angular displacement is inversely proportional to the radius because of arc length=(radius)(angular disp).
Angular displacement is the total angle through which the body has rotated. Does that angle depend on radius?

2. greater angular speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular velocity
I thought it would be the girl again since v=rw so if the radius decreases, the angular velocity increases.
Angular speed is \omega = v/r and v = 2\pi r/T. So \omega = v/r = 2\pi/T. T is the period of rotation. Does that depend on radius?

3. greater linear speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same linear speed
I'm unsure of this one. I'd probably choose the boy since I think he has a greater displacement, so the velocity would be higher.
You actually got this right but I don't think you understand why. It follows from v = \omega r. Since \omega is the same for each, how does the tangential speed change as r increases.

4. greater centripetal acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I thought that the answer would be the girl because a(sub c)=(v^2)/r so if the radius went up like the boy's then the acceleration would go down. I'm not sure if I used the right equation for this one...
Use v = \omega r so a = v^2/r = \omega^2 r. Since \omega is the same for both, how does a change with r?

5. greater tangential acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I completely guessed on this one and said they had the same since tangential acceleration = r(ang accel). Yeah, I really don't get this one.
Tangential acceleration is a = \alpha r = \dot{\omega} r. If \omega is constant, what is \dot{\omega}? So what is \alpha? a?

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Does that angle depend on radius?
The angle of a circle wouldn't depend on the radius, so that would mean that they both have the same angular displacement.

2. If w = 2(pi) / T then it doesn't depend on the radius either, so the answer would be they're both the same again, right?

3. Huzzah! The one I got right! Your explanation does make a lot more sense though.

4. Since w is the same for both, that would mean that as the radius increases, so does the centripetal acceleration, making the boy have the greater v.

5. I'm not sure that I really understand your explanation of the last one. Would the equation you used cause the answer to be the boy because the radius and the tangential acceleration are directly proportional?

Your reply was amazing. It helped me so much, thanks!
 
random26 said:
5. I'm not sure that I really understand your explanation of the last one. Would the equation you used cause the answer to be the boy because the radius and the tangential acceleration are directly proportional?
No. It is simple: Angular acceleration is the rate of change of angular speed. If the angular speed is constant (for both), what is the angular acceleration (for both)?

AM
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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