Angular and Linear Motion on a Merry-Go-Round: A Logic Check

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The discussion revolves around a scenario involving a boy and a girl riding on a merry-go-round that is turning at a constant rate. The problem explores concepts related to angular and linear motion, specifically focusing on angular displacement, angular speed, linear speed, centripetal acceleration, and tangential acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between angular displacement and radius, questioning whether angular displacement depends on the radius. They also explore the implications of angular speed and its dependence on radius, as well as the calculations for linear speed and centripetal acceleration.

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Some participants have provided clarifications and insights into the relationships between the variables involved, while others express uncertainty about specific concepts, particularly regarding tangential acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of constant angular speed on various forms of acceleration.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of circular motion concepts, with some expressing confusion about the equations and their applications. The discussion reflects a mix of correct reasoning and misunderstandings that are being addressed collaboratively.

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series of questions that I need to know if my logic behind the answers is correct.

A boy and a girl are riding on a merry-go-round which is turning at a constant rate. The boy is near the outer edge and the girl is closer to the center. Who has the

1. greater angular displacement
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular displacement
I figured it would be the girl because angular displacement is inversely proportional to the radius because of arc length=(radius)(angular disp).

2. greater angular speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular velocity
I thought it would be the girl again since v=rw so if the radius decreases, the angular velocity increases.

3. greater linear speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same linear speed
I'm unsure of this one. I'd probably choose the boy since I think he has a greater displacement, so the velocity would be higher.

4. greater centripetal acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I thought that the answer would be the girl because a(sub c)=(v^2)/r so if the radius went up like the boy's then the acceleration would go down. I'm not sure if I used the right equation for this one...

5. greater tangential acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I completely guessed on this one and said they had the same since tangential acceleration = r(ang accel). Yeah, I really don't get this one.

Are these right?
 
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random26 said:

A boy and a girl are riding on a merry-go-round which is turning at a constant rate. The boy is near the outer edge and the girl is closer to the center. Who has the

1. greater angular displacement
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular displacement
I figured it would be the girl because angular displacement is inversely proportional to the radius because of arc length=(radius)(angular disp).
Angular displacement is the total angle through which the body has rotated. Does that angle depend on radius?

2. greater angular speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same angular velocity
I thought it would be the girl again since v=rw so if the radius decreases, the angular velocity increases.
Angular speed is \omega = v/r and v = 2\pi r/T. So \omega = v/r = 2\pi/T. T is the period of rotation. Does that depend on radius?

3. greater linear speed
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same linear speed
I'm unsure of this one. I'd probably choose the boy since I think he has a greater displacement, so the velocity would be higher.
You actually got this right but I don't think you understand why. It follows from v = \omega r. Since \omega is the same for each, how does the tangential speed change as r increases.

4. greater centripetal acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I thought that the answer would be the girl because a(sub c)=(v^2)/r so if the radius went up like the boy's then the acceleration would go down. I'm not sure if I used the right equation for this one...
Use v = \omega r so a = v^2/r = \omega^2 r. Since \omega is the same for both, how does a change with r?

5. greater tangential acceleration
a) boy b) girl c) both have the same
I completely guessed on this one and said they had the same since tangential acceleration = r(ang accel). Yeah, I really don't get this one.
Tangential acceleration is a = \alpha r = \dot{\omega} r. If \omega is constant, what is \dot{\omega}? So what is \alpha? a?

AM
 
1.
Does that angle depend on radius?
The angle of a circle wouldn't depend on the radius, so that would mean that they both have the same angular displacement.

2. If w = 2(pi) / T then it doesn't depend on the radius either, so the answer would be they're both the same again, right?

3. Huzzah! The one I got right! Your explanation does make a lot more sense though.

4. Since w is the same for both, that would mean that as the radius increases, so does the centripetal acceleration, making the boy have the greater v.

5. I'm not sure that I really understand your explanation of the last one. Would the equation you used cause the answer to be the boy because the radius and the tangential acceleration are directly proportional?

Your reply was amazing. It helped me so much, thanks!
 
random26 said:
5. I'm not sure that I really understand your explanation of the last one. Would the equation you used cause the answer to be the boy because the radius and the tangential acceleration are directly proportional?
No. It is simple: Angular acceleration is the rate of change of angular speed. If the angular speed is constant (for both), what is the angular acceleration (for both)?

AM
 

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