Angular frequency of mercury in U pipe

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The problem involves a U-pipe filled with mercury, where the total length of the mercury is denoted as h. The scenario describes the oscillation of mercury when one column is pushed and released, leading to a discussion about determining the angular frequency of this oscillation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of h, clarifying that it represents the total length of mercury rather than the height of each leg. There are attempts to derive the angular frequency using pressure and force relationships, with some questioning the assumptions made in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants exploring the relationships between pressure, force, and acceleration in the context of the problem. One participant has derived an expression for angular frequency, leading to a confirmation of their reasoning by another participant, although no formal consensus is reached on the correctness of the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of a visual representation of the U-pipe, which may affect the clarity of the problem setup. Participants are working under the assumption that the mercury behaves ideally in this oscillatory motion.

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Homework Statement


A mercury is filled to a U-pipe so that the total length of the mercury is h (no figure given on the question). If the mercury column of one leg of the pipe is pushed then released, the mercury will oscillate with small amplitude. The angular frequency is
a. \sqrt{\frac{2g}{h}}

b. \sqrt{\frac{g}{2h}}

c. \sqrt{\frac{g}{h}}


Homework Equations


Maybe a = -ω2x


The Attempt at a Solution


Because there is no figure given, I think h is the height of the mercury column of both legs of the U-pipe, measured from the same point. But I don't know how to find the ω...
 
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songoku said:

Homework Statement


A mercury is filled to a U-pipe so that the total length of the mercury is h (no figure given on the question). If the mercury column of one leg of the pipe is pushed then released, the mercury will oscillate with small amplitude. The angular frequency is
a. \sqrt{\frac{2g}{h}}

b. \sqrt{\frac{g}{2h}}

c. \sqrt{\frac{g}{h}}


Homework Equations


Maybe a = -ω2x


The Attempt at a Solution


Because there is no figure given, I think h is the height of the mercury column of both legs of the U-pipe, measured from the same point. But I don't know how to find the ω...

No, h is the *total length* of the mercury in the entire tube (not the height of each leg). The distinction is important.

Start by figuring out the net pressure at a point in the mercury at the bottom of the tube (which approximately corresponds to the centre of mass of the mercury) when the column is depressed by x on one side. Your expression will involve the density of mercury, which you can call ρ. Remember that the column is depressed on one side, but raised on the other by the same amount x. Then figure out the force on the mercury column (which can be assumed to be acting at the centre of mass). For this, you'll need to include the cross-sectional area of the column, call this A.

Then use F = ma to work out the acceleration of the mercury column. Get m in terms of h, A and ρ. Now you'll have an expression for a in terms of x, ρ and g. Finally, compare with a = -ω2x to figure out what ω should be.
 
Curious3141 said:
No, h is the *total length* of the mercury in the entire tube (not the height of each leg). The distinction is important.

Start by figuring out the net pressure at a point in the mercury at the bottom of the tube (which approximately corresponds to the centre of mass of the mercury) when the column is depressed by x on one side. Your expression will involve the density of mercury, which you can call ρ. Remember that the column is depressed on one side, but raised on the other by the same amount x. Then figure out the force on the mercury column (which can be assumed to be acting at the centre of mass). For this, you'll need to include the cross-sectional area of the column, call this A.

Then use F = ma to work out the acceleration of the mercury column. Get m in terms of h, A and ρ. Now you'll have an expression for a in terms of x, ρ and g. Finally, compare with a = -ω2x to figure out what ω should be.

OK let me try

The net pressure = P = ρ.g.2x

The force on mercury column = P.A = ρ.g.2x.A

F = m.a
ρ.g.2x.A = ρ.A.h.a
a = 2gx / h

By comparing, ω = √(2g/h) --> finished ! But am I correct? :-p
 
songoku said:
OK let me try

The net pressure = P = ρ.g.2x

The force on mercury column = P.A = ρ.g.2x.A

F = m.a
ρ.g.2x.A = ρ.A.h.a
a = 2gx / h

By comparing, ω = √(2g/h) --> finished ! But am I correct? :-p

Yes, well done. :smile:
 
Curious3141 said:
Yes, well done. :smile:

Thanks :smile:
 

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