Angular + Linear Velocity problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a bowling ball rolling down a ramp, requiring the calculation of its velocity at the bottom using principles of conservation of energy and the relationship between angular and linear velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum and energy, questioning how to properly account for both translational and rotational motion. There is a focus on the relationship between angular velocity and linear velocity for rolling objects.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the relationship between angular and linear velocities, while others have shared their attempts and corrections. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the setup of the problem and the equations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering both rotational and translational motion in the context of rolling without slipping. There is mention of rounding instructions from the teacher and the potential for simple calculation errors.

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I kno this is pretty simple and the answer is probably staring me in the face, but I'm lost for some reason. Our teacher gave back our tests so i have the answer, but I'm not sure how to get it. I haven't had a chance to speak to my teacher yet, but i intend to tomorrow if no one helps me first.

Homework Statement



A bowling ball [(mass = 7 kg)(radius = .50m)] rolls without slipping down a 3m high ramp. Starting from rest, find the velocity at the bottom of the ramp.

Homework Equations



Bowling ball inertia = I = (2/5)(M)(R)^2 = (0.7)

The Attempt at a Solution



I used conservation of angular momentum

(1/2)(I-initial)(omega-initial)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-initial) = (1/2)(I-final)(omega-final)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-final)

after calculating i got omega-final = 24 (actually 24.25, but he instructed us to round to the nearest whole number)
i converted that to v = 12

which is wrong

i was supposed to set it up as:

(1/2)(I-initial)(omega-initial)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-initial) = (1/2)(I-final)(omega-final)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-final) + (1/2)m(v)[itex]^{2}[/itex]

and v = 6.5 is the answer

i was under the impression we were supposed to find the angular velocity at the bottom of the ramp and convert to linear velocity

i'm not sure how he got v = 6.5
 
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In your solution, you ignored the translational motion of the ball. The ball ends up with both rotational speed and translational speed. Hint: How are those two speeds related for rolling without slipping?
 
are you referring to v = rω?
 
GeorgeCostanz said:
are you referring to v = rω?
Yes.
 
so would it look like:

(1/2)(I-initial)(omega-initial)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-initial) = (1/2)(I-final)(omega-final)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + mg(h-final) + (1/2)m(r)[itex]^{2}[/itex](omega-final)[itex]^{2}[/itex]

just worked it out and got the right answer
i actually set it up like that last night and worked it out but just now realized i made a simple error
hate when that happens

thanks doc!
 

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