Angular momentum & Energy using Yukawa's potential

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to angular momentum and energy in the context of Yukawa's potential, which describes the nuclear forces between a proton and a neutron. The original poster is attempting to derive expressions for angular momentum and energy for circular motion at a specific radius.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate angular momentum to the effective potential and expresses uncertainty about the formulas needed to connect these concepts. Participants suggest differentiating the effective potential and exploring the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in circular orbits.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and prompting the original poster to consider the contributions of kinetic and potential energy. There is a recognition of the need for clarification on the expressions for energy in circular motion, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or formulas.

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There is an indication that the original poster may be struggling with the application of certain mechanical principles and theorems, which are relevant to the problem but not fully understood. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations regarding the relationships between energy types.

Nigsia
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Hello there!
I was doing my Gravitation problems and I found this problem that I'm unable to solve.

Yukawa's theory for nuclear forces states that the potential energy corresponding to the attraction force produced by a proton and a neutron is:
U(r) = \frac{k}{r}e^{-\alpha r},\ k<0,\ \alpha > 0
From the expression of it's effective potential, find the module of it's angular momentum and it's energy, for which it's possible a circular movement with a radius r0

I've tried several things, none of them leading to something meaningful. In fact, I know that expression for effective potential is:
U_{ef}(r)=U(r)+\frac{L}{2r^2}
So I imagine I would need to find L fist in order to get the expression for Uef, but I'm not able to remember nor find any kind of formula linking U and L. Would you please help me out?

PS: Once I know how to find L I know how to end it, since:
\frac{dU_{ef}}{dr} = 0 \Leftrightarrow r = r_0
is the expression of the energy of a circular movement with a radius r0

Thanks in advance.
 
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I think you are misunderstanding the problem task. You need to use ##r_0## to find the angular momentum and energy. Your work so far is fine and you should continue by differentiating the effective potential.
 
Okay, I have it differentiated. How do I find angular momentum? As far as I know, I only find the energy with what I've done.
 
How does the energy look like for a circular orbit?
 
Do you mean that the Potential is twice the kinetic?
 
No. I mean: How do you express the total energy for a circular orbit? There is a very simple expression.
 
I don't really know that formula. The only thing that I can think of is E=\frac{U}{2}
 
No, it is much simpler than you are thinking. What contributions are there to the total energy?
 
I really don't know. Can you give me a hint?
 
  • #10
What types of energy do you know of?
 
  • #11
Kinetic and potential.
 
  • #12
Right, so what are their values for a circular orbit?
 
  • #13
The potential is twice the kinetic, so \left| E\right| = \left| \frac{U}{2} \right| = \left| K \right|
 
  • #14
Nigsia said:
The potential is twice the kinetic, so \left| E\right| = \left| \frac{U}{2} \right| = \left| K \right|
No. This is simply wrong. You have to be aware when certain theorems hold and when they do not. The answer is much simpler and does not require anything else than very basic mechanics.
 
  • #15
Could you please give me another hint? I'm really struggling to get anything clear.
 
  • #16
In theory <br /> L=(-mkr_0(1+\alpha r_0)e^{-\alpha r_0})^{1/2}<br />
 

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