Angular Momentum: Quantization, Components, & Direction

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Well I've been looking at angular momentum...

I have an idea why a function f cannot be an eigenfunction of 2 different non-commutating operators, but has anyone a nicely precise reason??

If the angular momentum is resolved into its components, and we look at one, say L_z, then:

L_z.f = h.m.f

I am letting h be h-bar, m the quantum number, f the wave function, and L_z is the operator/

Is the total angular momentum quantized in m then also?? How do we find the total angular momentum from just this equation for a COMPONENT?

is it possible to select a direction so that the total angular momentum is L_z?
 
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Master J said:
I have an idea why a function f cannot be an eigenfunction of 2 different non-commutating operators, but has anyone a nicely precise reason??
Let's see if I can remember this: say that we have two operators A and B. If there is a simultaneous eigenfunction of both, call it f. Then
[tex]Af = af[/tex]
[tex]Bf = bf[/tex]
I can use those to calculate
[tex]BAf = Baf = aBf = abf[/tex]
and
[tex]ABf = Abf = bAf = baf = abf[/tex]
(I've used the fact that real numbers commute with each other and with all linear operators) Now putting the last two together,
[tex][A,B]f = ABf - BAf = abf - abf = 0[/tex]
So if there is a simultaneous eigenfunction f, the operators commute, at least when applied to the function f. Thus if they don't commute (for any function), there can't be any simultaneous eigenstates.
Master J said:
If the angular momentum is resolved into its components, and we look at one, say L_z, then:

L_z.f = h.m.f

I am letting h be h-bar, m the quantum number, f the wave function, and L_z is the operator/

Is the total angular momentum quantized in m then also?? How do we find the total angular momentum from just this equation for a COMPONENT?
Total angular momentum is quantized, but it has a different quantum number, [itex]l[/itex]. Well... what we actually calculate is the total angular momentum squared, [itex]L^2 = L_x^2 + L_y^2 + L_z^2[/itex]. (Since angular momentum is a vector, we need to square it to get a "total".) You can't find the total angular momentum just by knowing one component.

Master J said:
is it possible to select a direction so that the total angular momentum is L_z?
No, because of the uncertainty principle. When you have two noncommuting operators, like [itex]L_z[/itex] and [itex]L_y[/itex], you can't know both of them precisely because there are no simultaneous eigenstates. Any eigenstate of [itex]L_z[/itex] is a mixture of several eigenstates of [itex]L_y[/itex], so the total angular momentum could correspondingly have several different values.

If you have access to David Griffiths' book on introductory quantum mechanics, take a look at chapter 4 where he offers a nice diagram regarding exactly that point.
 
Diazona explained this beautifully but I just want to add this:

The total angular momentum is a vector that has three non-commuting components so it's usually impossible to measure it with a single measurement. But in spin-half systems the eigenvalue of L^2 is always equal to the average value you obtain by different measurements:

[tex] L^2 = L_x^2 + L_y^2 + L_z^2 = 3 \hbar^2 / 4 [/tex]

because you either get hbar/2 or -hbar/2 the squares of which are always h^2/4. And remember that the eigenvalues of L^2 are given by l * (l+1) , l is 1/2 here.

so without carrying out separate measurements, you can know the eigenvalue. Of course this is a very special property and immediately fails for spin-one systems for instance. Because you could get all kinds of results ( 0, hbar, 3 hbar, 2 hbar from different measurements of L^2) and they may not always be 2hbar -- which is the eigenvalue of L^2 for l=1. Edit: The fact taht L^2 is a combination of non-commuting angular momentum components doesn't mean that the eigenvalues of L^2 are not measurable -- they may be inferred from other experiments, such as the energy spectra of molecules - which yield direct information about the number l, hence the eigenvalue of L^2.

I hope I didn't make it worse for you.
 
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