The reference frame for angular momentum components

In summary: This is the essence of relativity: physics is about entities, not about observations. The observations are all about the basis used to represent the entities, not the physical entities themselves.In summary, the components of angular momentum are quantized in any chosen coordinate system, with the values of the components remaining the same regardless of the chosen axis. This demonstrates the quantum mechanics principle that dynamic quantities do not have well-defined values unless they are measured. This concept is further supported by the fact that, while the choice of z-axis may change, the state of the particle remains the same, with only the basis used to represent it being different. This highlights the importance of considering the entities themselves, rather than just the observations made about them.
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The reference axis of quantization for angular momentum components
In which coordinate system the components of angular momentum are quantized? Better to say, if we can select the coordinate system arbitrarily, how the components of angular momentum, say z-component, are always ##L_z=m\hbar##?
 
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Any choice of z axis direction is allowed for the quantization.
 
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Summary:: The reference axis of quantization for angular momentum components

In which coordinate system the components of angular momentum are quantized? Better to say, if we can select the coordinate system arbitrarily, how the components of angular momentum, say z-component, are always ##L_z=m\hbar##?
This provides a good example of the QM principle that dynamic quantities do not have well-defined values unless they are measured. If a system really was spinning in some definite direction about some axis, say, then the measurement of AM about the various axes would return everything from zero to the total AM. That's not what we find. Whatever axis is chosen, the measured AM is quantized about that axis. It doesn't matter that axis you choose. And, in the case of the electron's spin (intrinsic AM) it's always the same value (up to a ##\pm##). This is fundamentally incompatible with the concept of well-defined pre-measurement values for all directions.
 
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In which coordinate system the components of angular momentum are quantized? Better to say, if we can select the coordinate system arbitrarily, how the components of angular momentum, say z-component, are always ##L_z=m\hbar##?
No matter which direction we choose as the z axis, there will be a solution of the TISE which is an eigenfunction of the the spin component in that direction, and which is a simultaneous eigenfunction of ##S^2##. That's how we can choose the z-axis arbitrarily: any choice gives us a complete basis that we can use to represent any state.

However, the state that we call "positive eigenfunction of ##S_z##" when we've chosen to orient the z-axis horizontally is a different state than the state we call "positive eigenfunction of ##S_z##" when we've chosen to orient the z-axis vertically. The former is a possible state for a particle prepared by passing it through a horizontally oriented SG apparatus, and the latter is not. But the particle state is the same either way, all that's changed is the basis we're using when we write it down.
 
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1. What is a reference frame for angular momentum components?

A reference frame for angular momentum components is a coordinate system used to describe the direction and magnitude of angular momentum in a physical system. It is typically defined by three mutually perpendicular axes, with the origin at the center of mass of the system.

2. How is the reference frame for angular momentum components related to rotational motion?

The reference frame for angular momentum components is closely related to rotational motion, as it allows us to quantify and describe the direction and magnitude of rotational motion in a given system. It is used to calculate the angular momentum of an object or system in motion.

3. What are the three components of angular momentum in a reference frame?

The three components of angular momentum in a reference frame are the x-component, y-component, and z-component. These correspond to the three axes of the reference frame and represent the direction and magnitude of the angular momentum in each direction.

4. How is the reference frame for angular momentum components used in physics?

The reference frame for angular momentum components is used extensively in physics, particularly in the study of rotational motion and conservation of angular momentum. It is also used in fields such as astronomy, where it is used to describe the motion of celestial bodies.

5. Can the reference frame for angular momentum components change?

Yes, the reference frame for angular momentum components can change depending on the observer's perspective. For example, an object's angular momentum may appear to be different when viewed from different reference frames. However, the total angular momentum of a system is always conserved, regardless of the reference frame used to measure it.

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