Angular Velocity Problem - Merry Go Round

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The problem involves a merry-go-round with a specified diameter and initial angular velocity. Participants are tasked with determining the new angular velocity after additional mass is added by several individuals jumping on it. The subject area pertains to rotational dynamics and conservation of angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between moment of inertia, angular velocity, and angular momentum. Some express confusion regarding the correct formulas and the implications of adding mass to the system.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with hints and clarifications being provided. Participants are exploring the implications of conservation laws and how the moment of inertia changes with the addition of mass. While some understanding is developing, there is no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the given values for moment of inertia and the masses of the individuals involved. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider how the system's parameters change with the new additions.

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A 4.8m diameter merry-go-round is rotating freely with an angular velocity of 0.8rad/s. Its total moment of inertia is 1950(kg)(m2). Skid, Mitch, Larry, and Greezy all jump on at the same time. They each have a mass of 65kg.What is the angular velocity now?



Relevant equations
[tex]\omega=\frac{v}{r}[/tex]

[tex]I=\frac{1}{2}[/tex]mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm totally lost. Someone please give me a hint :-p

Thanks
 
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vm310 said:
[tex]I=\frac{1}{2}[/tex]mv2

This is not actually correct. 1/2 mv^2 is the formula for kinetic energy. The moment of inertia of a rotating body is something totally different, and it depends on both the mass of the body and its shape. But you don't have to worry about how to calculate it, because the problem *gives* you its numerical value right from the start.
vm310 said:
I'm totally lost. Someone please give me a hint :-p

There is a relationship between moment of inertia, angular velocity, and angular momentum. If you look at it closely, it should become clear what to do.

EDIT: Hint 1 - One of these three quantities changes after the kids jump on, as compared to before, which results in a change in another one of the quantities.

Hint 2 - As is often the case in physics, a general conservation law is what allows us to understand how the system will respond after the change has occurred.
 
Thank you for the quick response. I know that,

[tex]L=I\omega[/tex]

and that,

[tex]L=mvr[/tex]

I know I'm supposed to sum the masses of everyone who jumps on, but am I suppose to sum the radius also?
 
vm310 said:
Thank you for the quick response. I know that,

[tex]L=I\omega[/tex]

Right, and the quantity that changes (before vs. after) is the moment of inertia of the merry go round, because now it has the additional individual moments of inertia of the people standing on it. If you can figure out by how much I changes, you can figure out how much omega changes (because angular momentum is conserved).
 
Thanks cepheid I got it!
 

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