Another interesting number theory tidbit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the equation a² + b² = c² + k, specifically exploring the conditions under which it has infinitely many integer solutions. Participants examine various constants k, with a focus on k = 3 and k = 0, and the implications of these cases on the existence of solutions.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that for k = 3, c must be odd and a and b must be even, leading to a specific form of solutions based on integer n.
  • Another participant suggests that the approach could be generalized to other constants k, questioning for which values of k the equation has infinitely many solutions.
  • A later reply discusses the case when k = 0, presenting a specific form of solutions and noting that this implies solutions for k = 3.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether the identified solutions are exhaustive, with one suggesting that the solutions could be expressed in terms of k.
  • Another participant mentions that their approach works for k congruent to 3 (mod 4), but they are unsure about other cases.
  • There is a proposal for a specific method to derive a, b, and c based on t and k, indicating a potential pathway to find solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether all solutions have been identified, and multiple competing views remain regarding the generalization of the approach for different values of k.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the parity of a, b, and k are discussed, and there are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the generalization of the solutions for different constants k.

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Hello,

I was browsing a set of number theory problems, and I came across this one:

"Prove that the equation a2+b2=c2+3 has infinitely many solutions in integers."

Now, I found out that c must be odd and a and b must be even. So, for some integer n, c=2n+1, so c2+3=4n2+4n+4=4[n2+n+1]. If n is of the form k2-1, then the triple of integers{2n,2[itex]\sqrt{n+1}[/itex],2n+1]} satisfies the equation. Since there are infinitely such n, the equation holds for integers infinitely often.

I thought this was cool.

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Looks like the same approach could be used for many constants. So the question becomes, for what k does a2+b2=c2+k have infinitely many solutions?
 
That is cool! Nice find!

A no-brainer as follow-up question is of course: are these all the solutions?? I don't know the answer myself, but it's interesting to find out.
 
micromass said:
That is cool! Nice find!

A no-brainer as follow-up question is of course: are these all the solutions?? I don't know the answer myself, but it's interesting to find out.

That is an interesting question.

The case when k=0 has infinitely many solutions of which are all of the form [itex]a=d(p^2-q^2)[/itex], [itex]b=2dpq[/itex], [itex]c=d(p^2+q^2)[/itex] for integer p,q and an arbitrary constant d. The case k=3 makes the right hand side the square of 2n+2 when c=2n+1, and hence the case k=0 implies the case k=3. Applying the case when k=0 that I specified above, I obtain that [itex]a=d(p^2-q^2)[/itex], [itex]b=2dpq[/itex], [itex]c=d(p^2+q^2)-1[/itex], which are, I believe, all of the solutions. However, note that if a particular selection of p and q yields c as even, then this will not hold. In particular, we need the above specified condition that [itex]n=k^2-1[/itex], so [itex]c=2k^2-1[/itex].
 
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haruspex said:
Looks like the same approach could be used for many constants. So the question becomes, for what k does a2+b2=c2+k have infinitely many solutions?

Hm, I realize my approach works for k congruent to 3(mod4), but beyond that, I don't know.
 
micromass said:
That is cool! Nice find!

A no-brainer as follow-up question is of course: are these all the solutions?? I don't know the answer myself, but it's interesting to find out.

Haha, Thanks! I'm inclined to say that these are all the solutions, but I do not know. By the way, I could write the solutions in terms of k rather than n to make it neater. (i.e., if k is an integer, then, {2k2-2,2k,2k2-1} is an integer solution to the equation)
 
Mathguy15 said:
Hm, I realize my approach works for k congruent to 3(mod4), but beyond that, I don't know.
Choose any t > 0.
a = k + 2t + 1 (so a and k have opposite parity)
b = (a2 - k - 1)/2
c = b + 1
c2 - b2 = 2b+1 = a2 - k
 
haruspex said:
Choose any t > 0.
a = k + 2t + 1 (so a and k have opposite parity)
b = (a2 - k - 1)/2
c = b + 1
c2 - b2 = 2b+1 = a2 - k

Brilliant!
 

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