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The discussion centers on deriving the telegraph equation from the given system of equations relating voltage V(x,t) and current I(x,t) in an electrical cable. The equations involve parameters such as inductance (L), resistance (R), capacitance (C), and leakage (G). The goal is to show that both V and I satisfy the telegraph equation, which is expressed as a second-order partial differential equation. The initial suggestion for solving the problem involves taking partial derivatives of the equations and combining them appropriately.

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Consider an electrical cable running along the x-axis which is not well insulated from ground, so that leakage occurs along its entire length. Let V(x,t) and I(x,t) denote the voltage and current at point x in the wire at time t. These functions are related to each other by the system

\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}=-L \ \frac{\partial I}{\partial t}- RI, \ and \ \frac{\partial I}{\partial x}=-C\\\frac{\partial V}{\partial t}-GV

where L is the inductance, R is the resistance, C is the capacitance, and G is the leakage to ground. Show that V and I each satisfy

\frac{\partial^{2}u }{\partial x^{2}}=LC\frac{\partial^{2} u }{\partial t^{2}}+(RC+LG)\frac{\partial u }{\partial t}+RGu

which is called the telegraph equation.

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I am not sure of even where to start. Initially I would think a change in variable might do it, but then again, I don't know what change in variable to use. Any suggested course of action?

Thanks.
 
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Try taking partial derivatives of the equations above.. for instance try taking the partial derivative with respect to x of the first equation and then look at the other equation and see what you might want to take a partial derivative of that so that you can combine the equations.
 
Is it always safe to assume that

\frac{\partial^{2}I}{\partial x \partial t}=\frac{\partial^{2}I}{\partial t \partial x}
 
It is okay as long as the mixed derivatives are continuous.
 

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