Anti-viral Activity of Anise Extract

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the anti-viral activity of anise extract, specifically focusing on the role of Lignin-Carbohydrate complexes (LCs) and their potential mechanisms of action in vivo. Participants explore the implications of research findings, the validity of traditional uses, and the reliability of different types of studies in establishing efficacy.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant cites a study suggesting that LCs in anise extracts have anti-viral effects when applied to cell cultures and questions whether this translates to in vivo scenarios.
  • Another participant mentions cultural practices involving anise liquor but expresses skepticism about its immunity-boosting claims.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the peer review process and the lack of historical recognition of anise's benefits as evidence against its efficacy.
  • A participant emphasizes that while phytotherapy may have some therapeutic effects, it should not replace conventional medicine, and questions the effectiveness of anise when consumed as a drink.
  • One participant advises caution regarding the conclusions of the cited paper, suggesting that in vitro results may not predict in vivo efficacy and recommends looking for observational or animal studies for better insights.
  • The gold standard for establishing efficacy is mentioned as randomized controlled trials, which are necessary for drug approval.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some supporting the potential benefits of anise extracts while others remain skeptical about their efficacy based on cultural practices and the nature of scientific studies. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of anise extract in providing anti-viral activity in vivo.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on cell culture studies for initial findings, the need for more robust in vivo research, and the potential for misunderstanding the role of traditional uses of anise in health.

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Anise extracts contain Lignin-Carbohydrate complexes (LCs), which have been found to have anti-viral effects according to this article (DOI: 10.1271/bbb.100645 ). However, from what I understood by going quickly through the article, the scientists applied the extract directly onto the cell culture.

So, I was wondering if this is also true in vivo. So, if anyone here is an expert on the topic or knows about this stuff. Could you please explain to me how do LCs confer antiviral activity in vivo? what is the mechanism by which it occurs?
 
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I know at least three European cultures where one of the favorite drinks is anise liquor. However, I did not have heard that those have any immunity against viruses.
 
fresh_42 said:
I know at least three European cultures where one of the favorite drinks is anise liquor. However, I did not have heard that those have any immunity against viruses.

I think such posts should be reviewed by people who specialize in Biological sciences so misunderstandings never occur.
 
The paper you quoted was hopefully peer reviewed. That does not mean I have to trust the process they used. The fact that people in 3 different countries consume anise on a regular basis is just evidence for the absurdity of the claim. It would have been recognized as beneficial since centuries! The fact that it was not is strong evidence. You don't need to be doctor to observe this.
 
fresh_42 said:
The paper you quoted was hopefully peer reviewed. That does not mean I have to trust the process they used. The fact that people in 3 different countries consume anise on a regular basis is just evidence for the absurdity of the claim. It would have been recognized as beneficial since centuries! The fact that it was not is strong evidence. You don't need to be doctor to observe this.
Phytotherapy is not a replacement for medicine. However, some herbs have been proved to exert certain therapeutic effects because of phytochemicals found in them.
Anise, when boiled, releases a class of organic compounds known as Lignin-Carbohydrate complexes and these complexes have been found to prevent or fight viral infections according to research. My question was whether it can exert the same effect when taken as drink. It does not need to be 100% effective. Again, I repeat, it is not a replacement for medicine, but an aid to supply the body with certain nutrients it needs, and which happens to carry certain therapeutic benefits...
 
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I think you are correct to be skeptical of the conclusions of that paper. Many compounds can appear to have some effect when applied to cultured cells but be completely ineffective when studied in other situations. Studies with cultured human cells can be useful for preliminary studies and to try to address questions about mechanism, but they aren't good predictors of in vivo efficacy.

Rather, if you are interested in whether particular components of anise extract have antiviral activity, I would look to either 1) observational studies in humans that correlate consumption of anise extract with health outcomes or 2) animal studies in which the test compounds are given to animals and the animals are challenged with various viruses. While not perfect (correlation does not always imply causation for observational studies, and animals can sometimes be poor models for humans, especially when dealing with infectious diseases that can differ between mice and humans), these would be better indicators of any in vivo effect than studies in cultured cells.

The gold standard for evidence would be a randomized controlled trial (such as those required for approval of new drugs by the FDA).
 
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