Antiderrivative of e^(-x)*sin(x)*x^n

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The discussion revolves around the anti-derivative of the function e^(-x)*sin(x)*x^n with respect to x, particularly for positive integer values of n. Participants explore various methods of integration, including integration by parts and contour integration, while also touching on its implications in number theory and divergent series.

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  • One participant introduces a method for summing divergent series that involves the anti-derivative of e^(-x)*sin(x)*x^n, seeking proof or explanation.
  • Another participant requests details on what has been attempted to assist further.
  • A participant shares their experience with integration by parts, noting it leads to complex expressions but suggests that the integral from 0 to infinity may simplify the problem.
  • A different participant provides a result from Wolfram Alpha for the integral from 0 to infinity, proposing an induction hypothesis involving polynomials P(x) and Q(x) that could help in evaluating the integral.
  • Another method is suggested involving the integral of x^n e^{(i-1)x}, which separates the real and imaginary parts, making it more approachable for integration by parts.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the information, indicating they feel more equipped to prove their findings related to divergent series and acknowledges their journey in understanding complex numbers.

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Participants present various methods and approaches without reaching a consensus on a single solution or method for the anti-derivative. Multiple competing views and techniques remain in the discussion.

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Some participants note the complexity of the integrals involved and the potential for different approaches to yield varying results. The discussion reflects a reliance on specific mathematical techniques and assumptions that may not be universally applicable.

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I have recently come up with a fascinating method of summing various divergent series, whether it has been done before I am unaware, but in some scenarios it involves the anti-derivative of e^(-x)*sin(x)*x^n with respect to x. I only need positive integer values of n, and of course a proof/explanation. Any help would be appreciated. Forgive me if this is in the wrong place or is phrased awkwardly... I also accidently hit the enter key before I was done... It does involve number theory at it's heart, but that was not presented in the problem...
 
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Can you tell us what you've tried?? That way, we know how to help!
 
Well I have tried integration by parts on it, but it seemed to just explode to astronomical sizes... I have calculated it for certain values of n, and am rather sure that it can be expressed with common functions for any integer, and in particular I only need the Integral from 0 to infinity of this function, on occasion that helps to simplify it. Thank you whoever brought this out of number theory, that was a mistake, I was trying to move it.
 
Wolfram alpha gives us following nice result

\int_0^{+\infty} x^n e^{-x}\sin(x)dx=2^{-\frac{n}{2}-\frac{1}{2}}\sin( \pi(n+1)/4)n!

I think you can reach it by induction. Basically, the induction hypothesis is that for each n, there are polynomial P(x) and Q(x) such that

\int_0^{+\infty}=e^{-x}(P(x)\sin(x)+Q(x)\cos(x))

That this is the case is very easily seen. Indeed, partial integration will always give us such a form.

Evaluating in 0 and infinity shows us that we are only interested in the constants of this polynomials. So try to calculate the integral while only caring for the constants.

For example, look at

\int x^3 e^{-x} \sin(x)dx

Partial integration will yield a term with x^3, which we can drop. Remembering that

\int e^{-x}\sin(x)dx = -\frac{1}{2} e^{-x} (\sin(x)+\cos(x))

So we only care about the integrals

-\frac{3}{2}(\int x^2e^{-x}\sin(x)dx + \int x^2e^{-x}\cos(x)dx)

Now we can perhaps apply some kind of induction hypothesis.

Is this enough information for you to work it out?
 
Perhaps an easier way is to calculate the integral

\int x^n e^{(i-1)x}dx = \int x^n e^{-x}\cos(x)dx + i\int x^n e^{-x}\sin(x)dx

This integral seems a whole lot easier and is very approachable by integration by parts. The imaginary parts of the final integral will be the integral you're looking for.

Another method is by contour integration. That should work as well.
 
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Ah, thank you very much, I should have consulted wolfram alpha. I'm sure I'll have enough for a proof of it now, thank you! My summing of divergent resulted in the common answer 1+2+3+4...=-1/12, though I can now compute 2*1-4*3+6*5-8*7..., or indeed any n!/1-(n+3)!/3!+(n+5)!/5!-(x+7)!/7!... with relative ease. I should have been able to do it by myself... thank you!
edit:Ah, imaginary numbers! I remember them.. they got me interested in math in the first place, last year... I remember only 5 months ago when the simple chain rule proof for deriving was too tricky... I'll take a look at that integral sometime.
 
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