Show |x^2 sin^8(e^x)| <= (16 pi^3)/3

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of the function |x^2 sin^8(e^x)| over the interval from -2π to 2π, with the goal of showing that it is less than or equal to (16π^3)/3. The subject area includes calculus and integral evaluation, particularly focusing on properties of even functions and the application of theorems related to integrals.

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  • Participants explore the use of theorems related to integrals and absolute values, with attempts to break down the integral into manageable parts. Some question the necessity of certain steps in the original poster's approach, while others suggest alternative methods for simplification. There is also discussion about the properties of even functions and their implications for the integral.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and alternative viewpoints. Some have offered guidance on simplifying the problem, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made in the original approach. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive directions have been suggested.

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Participants note the relevance of the fundamental theorem of calculus, which has not yet been introduced in the current context. Additionally, there is mention of the original poster's reliance on the definition of the Riemann integral and specific partitions for their calculations.

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Show ##\vert \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x) \vert \le \frac{16\pi^3}{3}##
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From previous example, ##\int_{0}^{b} x^2 dx = \frac{b^3}{3}## where ##b > 0##.

##M(f, S) = \sup\lbrace f(x) : x \in S \rbrace##
##m(f, S) = \inf\lbrace f(x) : s \in S \rbrace##

##U(f) = \inf\lbrace M(f, P) : \text{P is a partition of [a, b]} \rbrace##
##L(f) = \sup\lbrace m(f, P) : \text{P is a partition of [a, b]} \rbrace##

We say ##f## is integrable on ##[a,b]## if ##U(f) = L(f)## in which case ##\int_a^b f = U(f)##.

Theorem 33.5: If ##f## is integrable on ##[a,b]##, then ##\vert f \vert## is integrable on ##[a,b]## and $$\vert \int_a^b f \vert \le \int_a^b \vert f \vert$$

Theorem 33.6. Let ##f## be a function defined on ##[a,b]##. If ##a < c < b## and ##f## is integrable on ##[a,c]## and ##[c,b]##, then ##f## is integrable on ##[a,b]## and

$$\int_a^b f = \int_a^c f + \int_c^b f$$
##\textbf{Attempt at solution:}## By theorem 33.5., $$\vert \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2\sin^8(e^x) dx \vert \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} \vert x^2\sin^8(e^x) \vert dx $$ $$= \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} \vert x^2 \vert \vert \sin^8(e^x) \vert dx$$ $$\le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} \vert x^2 \vert dx = \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 dx$$

By theorem 33.6, we have

$$\int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 dx = \int_{-2\pi}^0 x^2 dx + \int_0^{2\pi}x^2 dx$$

By example 2, we have $$\int_0^{2\pi} x^2 dx = \frac{8\pi^3}{3}$$

Now I try to mimic example 2 to evaluate the other integral, but I'm stuck: Let ##P = \lbrace -2\pi = t_0 < t_1 < \dots < t_n = 0 \rbrace## be a partition of ##[-2\pi, 0]##. We have $$U(x^2, P) = \sum_{k=1}^{n} M(x^2, [t_{k-1}, t_k])\cdot(t_k - t_{k-1}) = \sum_{k=1}^n (t_{k-1})^2\cdot(t_k - t_{k-1})$$

Setting ##t_k = \frac{k(-2\pi)}{n}## we get $$U(f, P) = \sum_{k=1}^n \frac{(k-1)^24\pi^2}{n^2} \frac{(-2\pi)}{n} = -\frac{8\pi^3}{n^3}\sum_{k=1}^n (k-1)^2$$
$$ = -\frac{8\pi^3}{n^3} \cdot \frac 16 (n-1)(n)(2(n-1) + 1) = -\frac{8\pi^3}{n^3}\cdot(2n^3 - 3n^2 + n) \le -\frac{8\pi^3}{3}$$

I was expecting to get ##U(x^2, P) \ge \frac{8\pi^3}{3}## and then could somehow argue ##U(x^2) = \frac{8\pi^3}{3}## but I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
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Use that $$\int_{-a}^a f = 2\int_0^a f$$
if ##f## is an even function (exercise if you haven't proven already).
 
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Math_QED said:
Use that $$\int_{-a}^a f = 2\int_0^a f$$
if ##f## is an even function (exercise if you haven't proven already).

Let ##f## be an even function that is integrable on ##[0,a]##. By definition of even, for all ##x##, ##f(-x) = f(x)##. Let ##S \subset \mathbb{R}## and ##-S = \lbrace -s : s \in S \rbrace##. Then ##\sup\lbrace f(x) : x \in S \rbrace = \sup \lbrace f(x) : x \in -S \rbrace##.

Let ##P = \lbrace 0 = t_0 < t_1 < \dots < t_n = a\rbrace## be any partition of ##[0,a]##. Consider the partition ##-P = \lbrace 0 = -t_0 > -t_1 > \dots > -t_n = -a \rbrace##. Then,

$$U(f, P) = \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} M(f, [t_k, t_k+1]) \cdot (t_{k+1} - t_k)$$
$$ = \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} M(f, [-t_{k+1}, -t_k]) \cdot (-t_k - (-t_{k+1})) $$
$$ = U(x^2, -P)$$

Similarly, for any partition ##Q## of ##[-a, 0]##, we have ##U(f, Q) = U(f, -Q)##. It follows ##\inf\lbrace U(f, P) : \text{P is a partition of [0, a]}\rbrace = \inf\lbrace U(f, Q) : \text{Q is a partition of [-a, 0]} \rbrace##. So ##U(f)## on ##[0,a]## is the same as ##U(f)## on ##[-a, 0]##. By similar reasoning, ##L(f)## on ##[0,a]## is the same as ##L(f)## on ##[-a, 0]##. We can conclude
$$\int_{-a}^a f = \int_{-a}^0 f + \int_0^a f = 2\int_0^a f$$ []

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Back to the original problem, (using what we already had in OP), we have

$$\vert \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x) dx \vert \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2dx = 2 \int_0^{2\pi}x^2dx = 2\cdot \frac{8\pi^3}{3} = \frac{16\pi^3}{3}$$
which is what we wanted. []
 
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fishturtle1 said:
Let ##f## be an even function that is integrable on ##[0,a]##. By definition of even, for all ##x##, ##f(-x) = f(x)##. Let ##S \subset \mathbb{R}## and ##-S = \lbrace -s : s \in S \rbrace##. Then ##\sup\lbrace f(x) : x \in S \rbrace = \sup \lbrace f(x) : x \in -S \rbrace##.

Let ##P = \lbrace 0 = t_0 < t_1 < \dots < t_n = a\rbrace## be any partition of ##[0,a]##. Consider the partition ##-P = \lbrace 0 = -t_0 > -t_1 > \dots > -t_n = -a \rbrace##. Then,

$$U(f, P) = \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} M(f, [t_k, t_k+1]) \cdot (t_{k+1} - t_k)$$
$$ = \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} M(f, [-t_{k+1}, -t_k]) \cdot (-t_k - (-t_{k+1})) $$
$$ = U(x^2, -P)$$

Similarly, for any partition ##Q## of ##[-a, 0]##, we have ##U(f, Q) = U(f, -Q)##. It follows ##\inf\lbrace U(f, P) : \text{P is a partition of [0, a]}\rbrace = \inf\lbrace U(f, Q) : \text{Q is a partition of [-a, 0]} \rbrace##. So ##U(f)## on ##[0,a]## is the same as ##U(f)## on ##[-a, 0]##. By similar reasoning, ##L(f)## on ##[0,a]## is the same as ##L(f)## on ##[-a, 0]##. We can conclude
$$\int_{-a}^a f = \int_{-a}^0 f + \int_0^a f = 2\int_0^a f$$ []

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Back to the original problem, (using what we already had in OP), we have

$$\vert \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x) dx \vert \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2dx = 2 \int_0^{2\pi}x^2dx = 2\cdot \frac{8\pi^3}{3} = \frac{16\pi^3}{3}$$
which is what we wanted. []

Well done. I didn't check your entire proof in detail but the idea is correct.
 
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Well done. I didn't check your entire proof in detail but the idea is correct.
I appreciate your help.
 
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@fishturtle1, you showed way more work than is necessary. Since ##x^2\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0## for all real x, you can immediately discard the absolute value symbols. Here's a much shorter version, using the fact that ##\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0##:
##| \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx| = \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 dx##
## = \left.\frac{x^3} 3 \right|_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} = \frac{8\pi^3} 3 - \frac{-8\pi^3} 3 = \frac{16\pi}3##
One more thing -- be sure to include dx in your integral.
 
Mark44 said:
@fishturtle1, you showed way more work than is necessary. Since ##x^2\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0## for all real x, you can immediately discard the absolute value symbols. Here's a much shorter version, using the fact that ##\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0##:
##| \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx| = \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 dx##
## = \left.\frac{x^3} 3 \right|_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} = \frac{8\pi^3} 3 - \frac{-8\pi^3} 3 = \frac{16\pi}3##
One more thing -- be sure to include dx in your integral.

I guessed that at this point the fundamental theorem of calculus was not yet introduced.
 
Mark44 said:
@fishturtle1, you showed way more work than is necessary. Since ##x^2\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0## for all real x, you can immediately discard the absolute value symbols. Here's a much shorter version, using the fact that ##\sin^8(e^x) \ge 0##:
##| \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx| = \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 \sin^8(e^x)dx \le \int_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} x^2 dx##
## = \left.\frac{x^3} 3 \right|_{-2\pi}^{2\pi} = \frac{8\pi^3} 3 - \frac{-8\pi^3} 3 = \frac{16\pi}3##
One more thing -- be sure to include dx in your integral.
Thank you for the response. I agree with what you say, but yes, the fundamental theorem of calculus is in next chapter. The way I have ##\int_0^{2\pi} x^2 dx = \frac{8\pi^3}{3}## is by an example using definition of Riemann integral and specifying a partition.
 

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