Any help about ORC (organic Rankine cycle)

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This discussion focuses on converting a rotary vane compressor into an expander for small-scale Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) applications, specifically in micro combined heat and power systems. Key issues include ensuring the compressor operates at the correct design RPM and verifying seal compatibility with the working fluid, R11. Participants highlight problems with the vanes seizing, preventing rotation, and suggest consulting pump and compressor repair shops for fixes. Additionally, various pump types, including piston, rotary vane, diaphragm, and multi-stage centrifugal pumps, are recommended for handling R11 with appropriate specifications.

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anyone can help me about the converting the rotary vane compressor into an expander to use in small scale organic Rankine cycle (micro combined heat and power)
 
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There isn't much you need to do. Just keep it within design rpm and check seal compatibility with your fluid at your working temp.
 
I am doing that , but it is not rotating , any modification?
 
Give us the full picture and we may be able to help. Working fluid, high and low side pressures and temps, pump type and power, lube system etc etc. Assuming the expander is functional the pressure difference across it is not great enough to induce rotation, there are many possible causes..
 
Thank you for attention
at the first time I examine the rotary vane compressor type with compressed air at approximately (5 - 7)bar
but the problem was that vanes don't attached the inside surface of the case ,and therefore the air inlet and outlet easily without any rotating and the shaft don't rotating.
I'm also removed the chic valve
 

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Yes, As you noticed, the vanes are seized.
 
Frankly, after that I do not know what to do to operate this type of compressor as an expander
 
Well, it needs to be fixed. You could try do it yourself or get on the phone and find some one who can do it for you ie a pump & compressor repair shop
 
I now trying to use an air motor is also rotary vane spring loaded
in this cycle I would like to use R11 as working fluid and if anyone has an information about the type of pump that can be applied to pumped this liquid with high pressure and responsible flow rate
 
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Many pumps will do the job. I've read papers that use piston, rotary vane, diaphragm and multi-stage centrifugal types with varying levels of success.
You need to pin down your pump specs (flow rate & pressure differential, materials compatibility etc) before you can select an appropriate unit.
 
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thanks
 

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