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I'm not sure how wrong this guy Monroe Pattillo is, or if he is just a bad explainer: .
Bandersnatch said:it's not egregiously incorrect. I am in a forgiving mood, though.
Bandersnatch said:Is there a particular reason for your posting this here?
This illustrates why we don't normally accept YouTube videos as valid references, and require textbooks or peer-reviewed papers.pbuk said:I thought forum members might be interested.
Fair enough.pbuk said:Very forgiving!
Only if the universe is finiteBandersnatch said:The title, at least, is correct.
Maybe if we ignore normal English grammar modulo artistic license.Bandersnatch said:The title, at least, is correct.

If the universe is infinite, can it become even vaster?Bandersnatch said:The title, at least, is correct.
It can become vaster per unit of stuff, everywhere. There are different metrics you can put on an infinite spacetime, and only some have this geometric property. The invariant description of the geometric property is that the spacetime admits an everywhere expanding congruence. Thus, for example, Minkowski spacetime does not have this property. That’s why the Milne congruence can only fill a piece of Minkowski space. Note, this definition of an expanding spacetime is decoupled from any requirements of isotropy or homogeneity.Jaime Rudas said:If the universe is infinite, can it become even vaster?
Yes, its density can decrease, but this doesn't mean the (infinite) universe as a whole will become vasterPAllen said:It can become vaster per unit of stuff, everywhere.
The observable universe is finite and its size is increasing, and the title might be referring to that (though it's hard to tell--again, this illustrates why we prefer not to use YouTube videos as references).Jaime Rudas said:Only if the universe is finite
Yes, that's why I stated "only if the universe is finite."PeterDonis said:The observable universe is finite and its size is increasing, and the title might be referring to that
But being able to have density decrease everywhere is a very unusual geometric property for an infinite spacetime to have. I would tolerate the description everything everywhere is getting vaster as a metaphor.Jaime Rudas said:Yes, its density can decrease, but this doesn't mean the (infinite) universe as a whole will become vaster
Yes, I understand now. The title is correct, and I, once again, am wrong.PAllen said:But being able to have density decrease everywhere is a very unusual geometric property for an infinite spacetime to have. I would tolerate the description everything everywhere is getting vaster as a metaphor.
The observable universe is always finite, regardless of whether the universe as a whole is. So if you meant "observable universe", your "only" makes no sense. It only makes sense if you are referring to models in which the universe as a whole is spatially finite.Jaime Rudas said:Yes, that's why I stated "only if the universe is finite."
Yes, I understand now. The title is correct, and I, once again, am wrong.PeterDonis said:The observable universe is always finite, regardless of whether the universe as a whole is. So if you meant "observable universe", your "only" makes no sense. It only makes sense if you are referring to models in which the universe as a whole is spatially finite.
I found this remark funny and I'm not even a native English speaker!berkeman said:Maybe if we ignore normal English grammar modulo artistic license.![]()
Oh come on. All I was saying is that there is a possible way to look at such that the title is right. That doesn't mean your way of looking at it is wrong, or than any title can capture more than a small piece of the whole truth.Jaime Rudas said:Yes, I understand now. The title is correct, and I, once again, am wrong.