Anyone else a bit concerned with autonomized weapons?

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Concerns about autonomous weapons are rising, particularly regarding their potential use in terrorist attacks and mass shootings in urban areas. The discussion highlights the difference between human-controlled drones and autonomous robots, emphasizing that the latter could operate with greater efficiency and lethality. Participants express fears about the ease of manufacturing such robots, which could be concealed and deployed more easily than traditional military drones. The conversation also touches on the ethical implications of lethal autonomous weapons systems (LAWS) and their potential to escalate violence without human oversight. Overall, the thread underscores the urgent need to consider the implications of advancing robotic and AI technologies in warfare and public safety.
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HAYAO said:
I need an auto-driving car that I have to steal or buy, which is going to be certainly much more expensive than conventional vehicles. Most of the suicide bombing by cars are done with really old and cheap cars that can be easily bought, rented, or stolen.

I think gleen was talking about the future where autonomous cars are as or almost as common as today's manually driven cars. Autonomous cars are likely to come in various different sizes and capacities depending on their purpose. Perhaps they will vastly out number manually driven cars.

http://optics.org/news/7/4/14
A cheaper optical distance-sensing technology could be a significant step forward, and a team at MIT has developed just such a platform, using off-the-shelf components and exploiting the processing power now available within most smartphones.

HAYAO said:
If you are talking about possibilities, then I will say that nothing is impossible.

This whole thread is about the future and that means possibilities, none of the concerns is about now. none of the things gleen said is so far away in the future that it doesn't even matter.
 
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Yeah, let's not go into any detail on the construction of IEDs. Folks can do their own reading about that elsewhere on the Internet. Thanks.
 
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This thread has me thinking of one of my favorite old movies.

"The fools. The mad fools!"
 
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Monsterboy said:
I think gleen was talking about the future where autonomous cars are as or almost as common as today's manually driven cars. Autonomous cars are likely to come in various different sizes and capacities depending on their purpose. Perhaps they will vastly out number manually driven cars.

This whole thread is about the future and that means possibilities, none of the concerns is about now. none of the things gleen said is so far away in the future that it doesn't even matter.

Well I am talking about a probable future, not a barely possible future. I can imagine about some terrorist bombing my house, which is in Japan, but that is so improbable that I am not concerned. I am concerned about terrorism, but not like that.

If I was some special operation forces operative on some clandestine mission, I will be concerned about even the tiniest possibility. This is simply because I am not allowed to fail, and I am given as much resources as I need to get the job done.

On the other hand, if I was some boss of a terrorist group, then given the restricted amount of resources, I must resort to more efficient tactics. None of the tactics you or gleen mentioned are efficient enough to be practical. If autonomous cars vastly out number manually driven cars, then manually driven cars are going to be significantly cheaper that it is even more practical to use conventional cars.I am once again emphasizing that we should be concerned about more realistic issues.
 
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HAYAO said:
Well I am talking about a probable future, not a barely possible future.

Nobody here is talking about barely possible future.
 
  • #106
Monsterboy said:
Nobody here is talking about barely possible future.
You are.
 
  • #107
HAYAO said:
You are.
Nope. You are just refusing to see a few steps ahead in the future. Actually you are talking about the future at all, you are stuck in the present.

HAYAO said:
If autonomous cars vastly out number manually driven cars, then manually driven cars are going to be significantly cheaper that it is even more practical to use conventional cars.

No, because of the reduced costs and it becomes even more easier for a terrorist to use a car bomb and not kill himself/herself along with it. It doesn't have to be an SUV sized car just a small two seater will do.

Maybe something like this.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....8/nuro-self-driving-delivery-last-mile-google
 
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Monsterboy said:
Nope. You are just refusing to see a few steps ahead in the future.

No, because of the reduced costs and it becomes even more easier for a terrorist to use a car bomb and not kill himself/herself along with it. It doesn't have to be an SUV sized car just a small two seater will do.

Maybe something like this.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....8/nuro-self-driving-delivery-last-mile-google

Well I don't believe in science fiction war games like you do, and I understand you don't like talking about realistic issues. So this discussion is effectively over, I guess?
 
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Thread closed again for Moderation...
 
  • #110
We've strayed a bit from the OP question:
dipole said:
Saw this video today on facebook.



I wonder how soon it will be before one of these is fitted with a machine gun. What if one of these was built or stolen for use in terrorism? In a densely populated city, how long could one of these roam freely gunning people down before police or military could stop it?

That might seem paranoid, but in an age where human beings are already gunning people down en mass on a fairly regular basis, it seems highly plausible that if this technology were to proliferate, they'll use machines to accomplish the same goals, but probably with much greater effects.

Overall the discussion has been interesting. Thank you all for participating, the thread will now stay closed.
 
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