Anyone here interested in wood gasification.... can't find anything?

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The discussion centers on wood gasification, a process that converts solid wood into gaseous fuel. Participants explore its historical context, practical applications, and the challenges associated with its use, particularly in vehicle fuel systems. The conversation includes both theoretical and practical aspects, as well as personal experiences and resources related to wood gasification.

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  • Some participants note that wood gasification has historical significance, particularly during WWII, but argue that it is now considered too expensive for widespread use.
  • One participant mentions the inefficiency of gasification compared to solar PV panels and raises concerns about the safety and regulatory issues of using gas generators in vehicles.
  • Another participant highlights the potential for stationary use of wood gasification systems, suggesting they may be more efficient than traditional wood-burning fireplaces.
  • Concerns are raised about the environmental impact of certain gasifier designs that produce carbon monoxide (CO) and the implications of using forest resources for fuel.
  • A participant shares a FEMA publication from 1989 that discusses constructing a wood gas generator for internal combustion engines during petroleum emergencies.
  • Some participants express interest in DIY projects related to wood gasification, with one stating plans to build a stationary unit and seeking advice from those with experience.
  • References to articles and resources, such as Mother Earth News, are made, discussing the feasibility of using wood gasifiers in vehicles and providing calculations for fuel efficiency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of interest and skepticism regarding wood gasification. While some see potential in stationary applications, others question its practicality and safety for vehicular use. No consensus is reached on the overall viability of wood gasification as a fuel source.

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Participants acknowledge various limitations, including safety concerns, regulatory challenges, and the efficiency of wood gasification compared to other energy sources. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and conditions regarding the use of wood gasification technology.

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Individuals interested in alternative fuel sources, DIY projects related to energy production, and those exploring historical and contemporary applications of wood gasification may find this discussion relevant.

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Wood gasification is the process of converting solid wood into a gaseous fuel. Surely the brainiacs on this site would find it interesting.
 
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It has been done during WWII and is now too expensive.
 
Here's a picture of a wood fueled car. It gassifies the wood, then burns the gas.

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jimboz said:
Wood gasification is the process of converting solid wood into a gaseous fuel. Surely the brainiacs on this site would find it interesting.
Gasification is an inefficient investment compared to solar PV panels.

Unfortunately the amateur built vehicle based systems are not certified by the vehicle manufacturer, so are not approved for use on the road. They fail the exhaust emission controls required of vehicles. Gas generators are also deemed dangerous when used on the road shared with gasoline based fuel. The last experimenter to try gas generation in this state got his picture in the newspaper, followed by the attention of the state government. I guess they would miss the fuel tax if the idea caught on.

Where the gas is produced more efficiently, from landfill or in a wet digester tank, it is burned in an internal combustion engine and used to generate electrical energy to the grid.

Gas generators for vehicles were investigated by the New Zealand government during one of the oil shocks, but the price of fuel fell and the generators were ignored again.
 
Quite a common DIY and 'miracle' topic: as usual, with the inherent dangers and costs often completely overlooked.

It's not a dead thing. It's just an obsolete thing which is too lazy to disappear.
 
Nifty. I'm all for keeping 'out of the box" technology extant.

For stationary use, they're apparently more efficient than a wood-burning fireplace... which doesn't take much, I imagine ; so, if that's the only alternative...

But,

Specific to the kind of gasifier design that,
a) directly uses a forest for fuel, and
b) intentionally produces CO (ie: using external air), which later is burned into CO2, or relatedly
c) uses a side-process, which also produces CO2 directly (eg: Fischer-Tropsch),

hard no for widespread use.

(Fair warning : I'm not a scientist - this opinion is what seems to be common sense, based on common knowledge)
 
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I've got fuel, tools, and mediocre skills and I'm planning on building a stationary unit. I was hoping someone here with actual experience might join the discussion.
 
Search wood gasification mother Earth news for a number of good articles. One article discusses a pickup truck running on a wood gasifier. They claim 80 to 110 miles at 55 MPH on 110 lbs of wood. A quick calculation that 110 lbs of gasoline would be 18.3 gallons, so the equivalent gas mileage would be 4.4 to 6 miles per gallon.

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I've got fuel, tools, and mediocre skills
Then Mother Earth News is your best source.
 
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Search wood gasification mother Earth news for a number of good articles. One article discusses a pickup truck running on a wood gasifier. They claim 80 to 110 miles at 55 MPH on 110 lbs of wood. A quick calculation that 110 lbs of gasoline would be 18.3 gallons, so the equivalent gas mileage would be 4.4 to 6 miles per gallon. Then Mother Earth News is your best source.

Yes, I'm familiar with them. Also, if you're interested, there's tons of good youtube videos.
 
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