AP Free Fall Question Solved: Finding Velocity & Time in Vertical Motion

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving free fall and vertical motion. The scenario describes a hot air balloon ascending at a constant speed, from which a package is released at a certain height. Participants are exploring the implications of initial velocity and acceleration on the package's motion after release.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the initial velocity of the package at the moment of release, questioning whether it should be considered as the speed of the balloon or the speed calculated just before release. There is confusion regarding the effects of acceleration on the package after it is released.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to clarify the reasoning behind using different initial velocities for the two questions. There is acknowledgment of mistakes and misunderstandings, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are grappling with the concept of constant speed and its implications for the motion of the package after it is released. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the relationship between the balloon's motion and the package's subsequent free fall.

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AP free fall question (solved)

Homework Statement



I have problem with question b.

A hot air bolloon is traveluing vertically upward at a constant speed of 5.00m/s. When it is 21.0m above the ground, a package is released from the balloon. a) for how long after being released is the package in the air? b) what is the velocity of the package just before impact with the ground?


Homework Equations


vf = vi+at
vf^2 = vi^2+2ad
d=vt + 1/2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I got Question A with the following

vf^2 = vi^2 + 2ad
so vf^2 = 5m/s^2 + 2 (-9.8m/s^2)(21m)
and i found the final velocity at the moment it release the package to be 20.9m/s
and i use that as my initial velcoity to find out the answer for question A, and the time is 2.64s

Now, what I don't understand is, since the 2 objects moves at the same speed initially, but if the package is drop, shouldn't the initial velocity stays as 20.9m/s?
i mean i know this is a free-fall question but the correct method is to use 5m/s as my inital velocity (back to the original question), but why?

From my point of view, the balloon carries the package until 21meter, then it releases it, so it descends at 9.8m/s^2. But at the moment when it release, the package is at 20.9m/s upward, so how come we use 5 m/s as our initial in order to find question B?
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when i tried question B, i use 20.9m/s as my vi instead of 5m/s.
of course, if i use 20.9m/s as my vi, i will get -4.9m/s as my vf which is never possible because the package is going downward as 9.8m/s^2.

the correct answer for question B is -20.9m/s

may someone tell me why?

thank you
 
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umm I see that as simple mistakes.

1. If they are moving at the same speed up, why would acceleration affect the box? Especially since the balloon is moving at constant speed, which means a = 0.
[You confuse me with that question]

2. you answered it with A.

Again deduce your questions better, I can't undrestand them.
 
never mind guys
solved it

again, feel so stupid for didn't remember "constant speed"
 
Solaxys said:
umm I see that as simple mistakes.

1. If they are moving at the same speed up, why would acceleration affect the box? Especially since the balloon is moving at constant speed, which means a = 0.
[You confuse me with that question]

2. you answered it with A.

Again deduce your questions better, I can't undrestand them.

sorry my friend

i think the approach is somehow right, since 5m/s and 20.9m/s is initial and final as in question a and b
(the mistake is like what you said, constant speed...)the problem is, i think you and i were right about constant speed
if they are moving at constant speed, then even at the moment the package was released, the speed is at 5m/s
 

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