Apartment Rent Costs: Australia (Sydney, Melbourne)

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The discussion revolves around apartment rent costs in Australia, specifically in major cities like Sydney and Melbourne. Participants share their experiences and expectations regarding rental prices, apartment sizes, and included utilities, while also comparing these to their experiences in other cities globally.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about reasonable weekly rent prices for apartments in Australia, seeking details on size, furnishings, and included utilities.
  • Another participant shares their experience of paying £600 per month for a small flat in London, noting that this price seems reasonable compared to Australian rents.
  • Some participants express a preference for central locations, suggesting that smaller shared flats may be more desirable despite potentially higher costs.
  • Concerns are raised about the affordability of a 30 sqm room priced at 800 GBP, prompting suggestions to negotiate or search for better options.
  • A participant mentions paying €850 for a 55m2 furnished apartment in a city center, emphasizing the importance of location over size.
  • Another participant reflects on their past rental experiences, indicating that prices can vary significantly based on location and economic status.
  • One participant advises searching online for rental listings rather than relying solely on shared experiences, providing links to rental sites.
  • Concerns are expressed about the high demand for rentals in Melbourne, particularly among international students, leading to challenges in finding affordable options.
  • A later reply critiques the relevance of comparing rental prices across different countries, arguing that local market conditions should be the primary focus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on rental prices, with various opinions on what constitutes a reasonable rate. There are competing views on the importance of location versus size, and some participants challenge the relevance of international comparisons to the Australian market.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing economic backgrounds and experiences, which may influence their perceptions of what constitutes a reasonable rent. The discussion highlights the variability in rental markets and the importance of local context.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering moving to or renting in Australian cities, particularly those interested in comparative rental experiences from other countries.

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Hi guys,

I'd just like to know how much do you think you are willing to pay for apartment rents per week. What is the reasonable rate in your country? If it's possible I'd also like to know the size of the apartments, to which you are referring, whether the apartment is furnished or not, and whether the rate includes electricity, water and heating. I'm currently looking in Australia, big cities like Sydney and Melbourne.

Thank You
 
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I used to live in London and have started working there again so will be moving back soon. A reasonable rate for a small flat is around £600 per month per person (AUS $1,041 USA $969). That accounts for furnished, bills not included and somewhere not way out of the way.

Where I live now which is relatively rural and about 30 miles out of London that much would probably pay for a large flat or a small house.
 
Ryan_m_b said:
I used to live in London and have started working there again so will be moving back soon. A reasonable rate for a small flat is around £600 per month per person (AUS $1,041 USA $969). That accounts for furnished, bills not included and somewhere not way out of the way.

Where I live now which is relatively rural and about 30 miles out of London that much would probably pay for a large flat or a small house.

It's good to hear that I'm looking at at least average price and not too high or too low. I thought that amount is too expensive before, but it seems that they're quite reasonable.

Would you prefer getting larger and more comfortable flat far from the city or getting smaller one right next to working place/university, considering transportation cost as well?
 
Personally I'd rather be as central as possible. I don't need much space so a small flat shared with some mates would be fine for me. Transport costs would be mostly the same, I won't be taking a car and monthly travel cards are a standard price. I could stay where I am and continue commuting but as I said the area is pretty rural and it's not exactly a thrilling place to spend your mid-twenties.
 
I share your view on this matter. The thing is the renter has offered a price of about 800GBP (after conversion from AU, exclusive of electricity and water) and the room's size isn't larger than 30 sqm. So I just might need to search further.
 
Yeah I would if I was you, or at least try to haggle it down. Tbh given the cost of land in London I'd be happy with a 30m2 room but couldn't afford more than 650, 700 at a push monthly. How hard is it to find a place in Australian cities?
 
I used to pay €850 (AUS $1230, $US 1150) for a 55m2 furnished apartment excl. gas and electricity, it was a reasonable price (these days it can even be considered cheap) to live in the city centre. As for your question where to live, it depends on your own requirements. For me access to transportation was important, so that limited the search to a certain radius around subway/train hubs. Size of an apartment is not that important, the neighbourhood is.

To check Amsterdam prices: http://www.funda.nl/huur/amsterdam/sorteer-woonopp-op/
 
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Seydlitz said:
Hi guys,

I'd just like to know how much do you think you are willing to pay for apartment rents per week. What is the reasonable rate in your country? If it's possible I'd also like to know the size of the apartments, to which you are referring, whether the apartment is furnished or not, and whether the rate includes electricity, water and heating. I'm currently looking in Australia, big cities like Sydney and Melbourne.

Thank You
Well, it depends on one's economic status. When I was a student, I could find apartments from US$200-400/mo. When I received my first job, I looked at apartments close to work and they went for US$1100-1200/mo. I settled on one that was ~$1200/mo, but I lived about 25 miles from work in a rural area.

In NY City, small apartments could run $1000 - several $K/mo, depending on the neighborhood. The more expensive an apartment, the more likely one will need roommates.
 
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Thanks guys for your insight. My parents and I have passed the point of online search, we have actually inspected several prospective properties and are weighting the pros and cons of the options. In general we just want to get the best deal as possible, and knowing average market price as well as your personal experience really help us in making the decision.

The property market in Melbourne is quite dense as far as I can see, the demands are pretty high. Many international students want the lowest possible cost just to stay, even though the apartment itself is not that good or comfortable. There exist 17 sqm apartments with a rent cost of almost 700GBP, including water and limited electricity. (you need to pay the bills if it exceed some point) But I doubt one can hold on in such an apartment comfortably in long term. Having said that, it's not only students who are having problem, city residents also reported difficulty in renting because of long waiting list.
 
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Seydlitz said:
Thanks guys for your insight. My parents and I have passed the point of online search, we have actually inspected several prospective properties and are weighting the pros and cons of the options. In general we just want to get the best deal as possible, and knowing average market price as well as your personal experience really help us in making the decision.
What does knowing how much rent I pay in America have to do with the price of apartments in Australia? Absolutely nothing. You cannot use what people pay in other parts of the world in making your decision. Just FYI. Here you should only be paying $200 a month for the apartment you described. Oh, but in LA, you'll have to pay $1,500 a month for the same apartment. Do you see how it's not relevant to how much you should pay there? There is NO world "average market price". You need to look at what apartments go for THERE.
 

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