APC.3.1.2 shortest distance between curve and origin

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The discussion revolves around finding the x-coordinate of the point on the curve defined by the function \( f(x) = \frac{4}{\sqrt{x}} \) that is closest to the origin. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including calculus and optimization techniques, to determine the shortest distance from the curve to the origin.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the problem may involve finding the shortest distance between a point and a curve, indicating uncertainty about the relevant equations.
  • Another participant formulates the distance squared \( D^2 = x^2 + \frac{16}{x} \) and proposes minimizing this expression by taking its derivative and setting it to zero.
  • A different approach using Lagrange Multipliers is introduced, where the objective function is the square of the distance subject to a constraint derived from the curve equation.
  • One participant shares specific calculations for each proposed x-value, evaluating the distance from the origin for each option and concluding that \( x = 2 \) yields the smallest distance.
  • Another participant expresses unfamiliarity with Lagrange Multipliers, indicating a varying level of comfort with the mathematical techniques discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to the problem, with some agreeing on the method of minimizing distance while others explore different techniques. There is no consensus on a single method or conclusion, as various perspectives and calculations are shared.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations rely on approximations and numerical evaluations, and there may be assumptions regarding the validity of methods used for optimization. The discussion does not resolve the best approach or confirm a definitive answer.

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Find the x-coordinate of the point on $f(x)=\dfrac{4}{\sqrt{x}}$
that is closest to the origin.

a. $1$
b. $2$
c $\sqrt{2}$
d $2\sqrt{2}$
e $\sqrt[3]{2}$

not real sure but, this appears to be dx and slope problem
I thot there was an equation for shortest distance
between a point and a curve but couldn't find it offhand
 
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$D^2 = (x-0)^2 + \left(\dfrac{4}{\sqrt{x}} - 0\right)^2 = x^2 + \dfrac{16}{x}$

minimizing $D^2$ will minimize $D$ ...

$\dfrac{d(D^2)}{dx} = 2x - \dfrac{16}{x^2} = 0$

finish and confirm the value is a minimum
 
Another approach would be Lagrange Multipliers (optimization with constraint. The objective function could be the square of the distance:

$$f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$$

Subject to the constraint:

$$g(x,y)=y-\frac{4}{\sqrt{x}}=0$$

Hence:

$$2x=\lambda\left(2x^{-\frac{3}{2}}\right)$$

$$2y=\lambda(1)$$

This implies:

$$y=\frac{x^{\frac{5}{2}}}{2}$$

Substituting into the constraint, there results:

$$\frac{x^{\frac{5}{2}}}{2}-\frac{4}{\sqrt{x}}=0$$

This leads to the same root as above, and to verify it is a miniimum we could pick another point on the constraint to verify the objective function is greater at that point than at our critical point.
 
interesting,,,

I've never did anything with Lagrange

x=2
 
My first thought would be to just try each possibility:
a) x= 1. The point is (1, 4) which has distance $\sqrt{17}$, about 4.12 from the origin.
b) x= 2. The point is (2, 4/\sqrt{2}) which has distance $\sqrt{4+ 8}= \sqrt{12}$, about 3.46, from the origin.
c) $x= \sqrt{2}$. The point is $(\sqrt{2}, 4/\sqrt[4]{2})$ which has distance $\sqrt{2+ 16/\sqrt{2}}= \sqrt{2+ 8\sqrt{2}}$, which is about 3.65, from the origin.
d) $x= 2\sqrt{2}$. The point is $(2\sqrt{2}, 4/\sqrt[4]{8})$ which has distance $\sqrt{8+ 16/\sqrt{8}}= \sqrt{8+ 8/\sqrt{2}}= \sqrt{8+ 4\sqrt{2}}$, which is about 3.70 from the origin.
e) $x= \sqrt[3]{2}$. The point is $\sqrt[3]{2}, 4/\sqrt[6]{2})$ which distance $\sqrt{\sqrt[3]{4}+ 16/\sqrt[3]{2}}$ which is about 3.78 from the origin.

Of the four distances, the smallest is 3.46 so (b) x= 2 gives the point closest to the origin!

Heavy use of calculator, light use of brain!
 

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