Aphelion/Perihelion of Halleys comet

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The discussion revolves around the orbital characteristics of Halley's comet, specifically its aphelion and perihelion distances from the sun. The problem involves calculations based on the comet's eccentricity, orbital period, and the mass of the sun.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the maximum and minimum distances of Halley's comet from the sun using the semi-major axis and eccentricity. They express concern over discrepancies between their results and values found online. Other participants question the accuracy of the calculations and suggest re-evaluating the power in the equations used.

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Participants are actively engaging in checking calculations and discussing potential errors in the original poster's approach. There is recognition of a specific calculation error, and further exploration of the comet's speed at different points in its orbit is introduced.

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There is mention of the sidereal period and the need to clarify the values used for the semi-major axis and distances at perihelion and aphelion. The original poster's calculations are based on specific assumptions regarding the mass of the sun and the orbital parameters.

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Q.Halley's comet is in an elliptic orbit about the sun. The orbit eccentricity is 0.967 and the period is 76 years. Taking the mass of the sun to be [tex]2 \times 10^30 kg[/tex] abd the usual value of G, determine the max and min distances of the comet from the sun.
Now I've worked out the answers but they differ from the values I've found on the net,(my guess is the value I've used for the solar mass isn't very accurate!) so would you mind taking a second to have a look at what I've done to see if I'm correct.
A.
using...
[tex]a=( \frac{GM_{\odot}T^2}{4 \Pi ^2})^\frac{1}{3}[/tex]
i got
[tex]a= \sqrt[3]{ \frac{ (6.67 \times 10^-11 )( 2 \times 10^30 )( 2.4 \times 10^9)^2}{4 \Pi^2}}<br /> = 2.01 \times 10^9 m[/tex]
from
[tex]e= \frac{a-R_{min}}{a}[/tex]
[tex] R_{min} = 6.633\times1 0^6[/tex]
then to get R_max i used
[tex] R_{max} = 2a - R_{min}<br /> = (2)(2.01\times10^9) - (6.633\times 10^6)<br /> = 2.666\times 10^{16} m[/tex]
the problem is i`ve found a value for R_min = 8.9x10^10 and R_max = 5.3x10^12 !
 
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zanazzi78 said:
[tex]a= \sqrt[3]{ \frac{ (6.67 \times 10^-11 )( 2 \times 10^30 )( 2.4 \times 10^9)^2}{4 \Pi^2}}<br /> = 2.01 \times 10^9 m[/tex]

Check that calculation again. You have a power (-11 + 30 + 18)/3, it should be in the power 12 range.
 
I`m blind to my own ignorance, thank you for pionting out the error.
 
I am trying to figure out the speed of Halley's Comet in km/sec. at aphelion and perihelion

I am using

v² = (4Π²a³) / (P²) * ((2/r) - (1/a))

where a = mean distance from the sun (semimajor axis of the ellipse)
P= sidereal period (75 years)
r = distance of the object from the Sun at a given instant

a=16.8 A.U. c=16 A.U.

"r" at perihelion = a-c "r" at aphelion = a + c
 

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