Apostol's Archimedes area proof for a parabola

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The discussion revolves around Apostol's proof regarding the area under a parabola, specifically the assertion that the area equals \( \frac{b^3}{3} \), where \( b \) is the base of the enclosing rectangle. Participants are focused on understanding a particular contradiction involving the inequality \( n \geq \frac{b^3}{A - \frac{b^3}{n}} \) presented in the proof.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about the origin of the inequality \( n \geq \frac{b^3}{A - \frac{b^3}{n}} \) and seeks assistance in understanding it. Some participants attempt to clarify the logic behind this inequality, suggesting that it stems from the ability to choose partitions \( n \) that exceed a certain threshold.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's question, offering insights into the reasoning behind the inequality. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the inequality and its relationship to the proof, but no consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's confusion.

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The original poster mentions difficulties in accessing the book and replicating the problem in LaTeX, which may affect the clarity of their inquiries. Additionally, some participants suggest sharing the proof for better understanding, indicating a potential barrier to full comprehension due to resource limitations.

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Homework Statement



My question is on the last bit of Apostol's proof, in his book Calculus Vol I 2nd ed, where he shows that the area under the parabola = b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/3 where b is the base of the rectangle enclosing the parabola.

The bit I am confused about is where his contradiction n[tex]\geq[/tex]b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/(A-b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/n) came from?

I know this is impossible for anyone to solve unless they own the book... However, please please could someone understand my frustration and also the lack of knowledge of knowing Latex enough to replicate the problem. If you own the book, please could you help me?

I would greatly appreciate help!

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I have tried various approaches in trying to attain the n[tex]\geq[/tex]b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/(A-b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/n), however, I have not been successful either way. Sorry, it might not seem like proper attempts have been made, but I have tried, and I have constantly failed to gain it.
 
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It's just from the fact that you can pick a number of partitions n that is greater than or equal to [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{n}}[/tex] so A < [tex]\frac{b^3}{3}[/tex] is false. The same logic works for the case A > [tex]\frac{b^3}{3}[/tex], just in reverse
 
Feldoh said:
It's just from the fact that you can pick a number of partitions n that is greater than or equal to [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{n}}[/tex] so A < [tex]\frac{b^3}{3}[/tex] is false. The same logic works for the case A > [tex]\frac{b^3}{3}[/tex], just in reverse

Sorry and thank you for replying even though I may have been vague!

However, I do not understand how you get n that is greater than or equal to [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{n}}[/tex]
 
To the OP: if you want help from people who don't own the book, you can scan or photograph the book's proof and upload it here.
 
The book can be viewed here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/5874133/Calculus-Volume-1-686pp67

The proof starts from page 3 and ends at page 8. However, I am confused about the last bit, which is from pages 7-8.

If its hard to view on that, and you have bandwidth, please view the PDF file on the attachment.
 

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gom2 said:
The bit I am confused about is where his contradiction n[tex]\geq[/tex]b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/(A-b[tex]^{3}[/tex]/n) came from?

gom2 said:
However, I do not understand how you get n that is greater than or equal to [itex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{n}}[/itex]
Well, firstly it is not n greater than or equal to what you wrote but rather n greater than or equal to (1) [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{3}}[/tex]. To figure out how to obtain this, remember that the inequality you obtained this from was valid for integer n ≥ 1.

Therefore, the inequality (2) n < [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{3}}[/tex] is also valid for integer n ≥ 1.

However, the information on the right side of the inequality (2) is a constant. Thus, n can be made to be larger than the expression on the right. n can increase but the right side of (2) doesn't. n approaches infinity while the right side stays put. Obviously, n violates this inequality when (3) n ≥ [tex]\frac{b^3}{A-\frac{b^3}{3}}[/tex] (since the inequality (2) had n less than but not equal to the expression of (1)).
So there's a contradiction because the inequality (2) should be valid for all integer n ≥ 1, but as has been shown by (3), it is not valid for certain n. That's where the expression came from and is basically what Feldoh was getting at.
 
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